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I have bought a new hard disk (Hitachi) for my Thinkpad T43 but when i install Windows XP during the installation and sometimes even in the begining i get the error message with Blue Screen stating something like "A problem has been detected and windows has been shutdown.... remove any newly installed hard drives ...."
I am really in a mess and need to overcome this issue please help me out.
did you happen to format the new drive after installing it? Maybe download a live cd and use the live cd to format the drive, then try doing the windows install again..?Quote:
"A problem has been detected and windows has been shutdown.... remove any newly installed hard drives ...."
also have you checked your BIOS settings? Is the hard drive properly connected etc etc.?
Yes,
Please make sure that your BIOS is up to date and that the HDD is recognised correctly...............in that respect, what drive letter is it assigned? sometimes that matters, and you have to correct things.
What BIOS and release?
What model of T43? (detailed numbers please)
What Hitachi HDD?
Is this a replacement or a second drive?
:)
Thinkpads are a nightmare to customize. I'm in the middle of rolling out a handful of T60's and they are almost impossible to image. Lenovo's somehow tied in the partitioning scheme with security. The first one I did, I wiped out both partitions, the primary which had Windows installed and a hidden restore partition. After that, I simply couldn't get ANY kind of bootdisk to recognize and/or mount the hdd. Not PE. Not Linux. Not even an XP cd. Changed nothing in the bios. From what little research I was doing Friday, they've got some hybrid SATA setup. I've got instructions for restoring both partitions but haven't had time yet.
I'll probably call Lenovo this week. I've got four that need an image, and 50 on the way. I have imaged T43's but did not create that image. My predecessor handled it and I'm not sure what he did yet. I'll have a T43 on my desk come Monday a.m. and will try to post later in the day.
Ugh, took a bit longer look at this T43 I'm typing on now. The more I learn about Thinkpads, the less I know. :(
Booted this one up with a DSL cd and UBCD (both live linux). Ran fdisk in DSL and it couldn't find the hdd despite it having XP installed on it. Booted UBCD and ran a hdd utility called Active Partition Recovery. It sees the hdd, but no partitions. Booted into Insert (linux) from the UBCD and fdisk finds the hdd and one partition. Ran an hdd utility from Insert called qtparted (v0.4.4) which showed two very small hidden partitions and a primary NTFS partition.
Then went and perused the bios. "Config" has no hdd settings, save for something under "Network" enabling/disabling HDD DMA. The IBM Security Chip is disabled on this unit (also in the bios). IBM Predesktop Area has 3 settings: Secure, Normal, and Disabled. "Startup" should show your hdd.
A couple of suggestions here:
a) This is a newer piece of hardware (the live cd's don't find a nic!), so run an XP SP2 cd.
b) Try toggling the IBM Predesktop Area setting to disabled. You can always restore the defaults.
c) Anything you find out, let me know. These things are a bear.
I'm still going to call IBM for support and will let you know.
Back to the grind...
edit -- here we go, this explains quite a bit:
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=27721
another edit -- a wee bit more...
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic...84430cb274dc29
I think thats why they have the nicknameQuote:
Originally Posted by brokencrow
"Stinkpads"
:bigsmile:
MLF
...you're not helpin', MLF.
;)
We use t43's as our primary workstations. Overall I think it is a pretty nice machine. You do have to understand how to work with the recovery partition, but they can be easily customized once you know how to use their software.
It's not any different than having to use something like compaq/HP smartstart to setup an old compaq or newer HP computer and setting up a recovery/system partition.
Sorry bout that....;)
I think you are on the right track....working directly with IBM on this....
MLF
Don't get me wrong; ThinkPads are outstanding units. The accompanying software's a bit overengineered (or so our users complain). Their uniqueness is causing me problems, but I think I got the T60's figured. Toggling the bios SATA controller mode gives the XP cd what it needed to recognize the hdd so we can do our own image on our own license.
I have not yet found a suitable workaround for the T43. "Config" in the T43's bios has no, or few, hdd settings from what I can tell. Mohaughn, what's your experience with customizing T43's?
Ugh, I'm finding out IBM's idea of working with their customers is sending your unit back to them.
I find IBM hardware some of the best.
I personally have I a used IBM Personal computer-tower(5 years old...weighs a ton) and previously had an old monitor 13 inch....colour...that was from my first IBM in the late eighties....
I lent the monitor to someone as an replacement for a fried one....and then it was lost in a flood...3 weeks later ( they got a replacement and put the ibm on the floor)
that thing was 15 years old...and it still worked (
The couple of laptops I have seen are solid units.
I put used IBMs desktops in sites on budgets.....no problems with them......except finding the right drivers.
Friend of mine got a leveno with his new job.....nice....totally locked down from BIOs up.
IBM=Proprietary
yes they want you to use thier hardware only.....
MLF
Machine is Thinkpad T43 Type: 2668-6CUQuote:
Originally Posted by nihil
Harddisk is 100 GB HITACHI Model HTS541010G9AT00 Made in Thiland.
The original Harddisk was exactly the same one only that was 80 GB same model......
The reason i am changing this drive is the first one got screwed up and i have to get other one and this one i purchased from Local market as the machine i purchased from US.
Soon after memory check when i boot the machine IBM harddisk protection diagnostic starts and it gives an error message "The hard drive you installed has not been qualified for use in the computer or doesnot have latest firmware"
When i try to upgrade the firmware i get the message its already updated, and the hard drive is getting recognized by the Machine i can see that in BIOS.
The thing surprising for me is that the previous one is same model then how come the new one is not working on the machine.....
Ah! "IBM hard disc protection diagnostic"................:(
Did you have to enter a hard disk password with the old one?
I don't know that particular machine, but I suspect that there is an EEPROM chip with some hardcoded data on it.................this kicks in before loading the OS, and checks the system integrity.
You will need to check the user manual to see if there is some sort of jumper switch to clear it. Otherwise I would disconnect from the power, remove the rechargeable battery and remove the CMOS battery (it should be a little button cell) and leave it for 24 hours.
If that doesn't work then it would be reasonable that there is an EEPROM chip, which has a non-volatile memory.
Please let me know how you get on, and I will do a bit of research if required ;)
Yes Nihil..... Since i purchased it from States and my cousin installed all the things in it including a password protection sort of thing.
In that old hard drive i used to enter username and password in order to activate the harddrive i mean aftr entering that the OS boot otherwise one can get into it.
The old hard drive got screwed due to that password thing....... anyhow that harddrive no more in use for me.....
Well i have to check IBM website for the manual since i havenot received it with machine.
Nihil i need to know where i can find that CMOS cell in this machine...... can you guide me?