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A Chinese couple sued Yahoo and its Chinese affiliates on Wednesday, alleging the Internet firms provided information that helped the Chinese government prosecute the man for his Internet writings.
http://www.reuters.com/article/inter...22649120070419
How responsible is Yahoo to preserve privacy of internet users?
How much cooperation do they owe to government?
Thing is: if it's written in law that they must do monitoring, etc. then Yahoo is not left with too much of an option. They are obeying the law as it stands in the country that the service is being used in. And it's very well known how much the Chinese gov't monitors internet usage.Quote:
Originally Posted by rcgreen
It's kinda of hard to force, IMO, to be responsible for the laws of a nation that they are respecting overseas and sue them in the home nation when these are not citizens or residents of the home nation. Yahoo can certainly push the US Gov't to take a stronger stance against the Chinese restrictions but that's about it.
rcgreen,
That link seems to have been superceeded :(
There is a fair bit of information here:
http://www.humanrightsusa.org/
As responsible as their privacy policy says they are. You did read it before you handed over your personal info, right?Quote:
How responsible is Yahoo to preserve privacy of internet users?
Whatever is legally required, plus anything extra they've notified users of in their privacy policy.Quote:
How much cooperation do they owe to government?
In some places you might be surprised how much that is. Existing logs from an ISP here can be requested by police with very little process -- they just need a senior enough officer to sign a prescribed form and that's it; no court involvement required. Only active communications interception or additional logging requires a warrant.
I think that the issue here is that Yahoo is an American company?
American companies are also answerable to American law for their actions regarding human rights in foreign countries.
Really? So the laws of other nations don't matter? Curious. Which law is this?Quote:
Originally Posted by nihil
Hi,
The Alien Tort Claims Act (1789)
The Torture Victims Protection Act (c. 1992?)
They are US laws for US people. If other countries' laws are contrary to them then US people shouldn't do business there.
Right. But Yahoo in China isn't American. It's a Chinese subsidary IIRC? And those suing Yahoo are Chinese citizens I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by nihil
You are responsible for the actions of your subsidiaries I believe? hey I am no expert on US law, it is pretty different from ours :)
I think that the mainland China operation is now only an "associate" of Yahoo, so presumably wouldn't qualify? but it was sold/transferred after these alleged infringements took place, I believe.
EDIT: Yes, 2005. Link is here:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_3687238.htm
ISPs don't promise privacy, and in all fairness, they can't. If they refused to work with China, China would just block them, and they'd loose access to millions of users. No company is going to stand up to a major world government - and certainly not for free.
Yahoo is not an ISP it is an e-mail provider in this case. China has its own ISPs, which it can control as it wishes.
I am not aware of any western ISP that "works with China"................they do not have Chinese users and have no prospects of making any money out of the place anyway. Also foreign participation in Chinese telecommunications is forbidden by law.
If any blocking goes on, it will be us blocking Chinese ISP ranges, given the amount of scam and spam that comes out of the place.;)
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