The Pirate Bay Conspiracy.?

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Swedish authorities are trying to shut down The Pirate Bay by using child porn as a reason to block it. First of all the Swedish anti-piracy lobby groups. They stated at an official meeting in Stockholm that child porn could be used for anti-piracy issues. Most people will probably agree that child porn is sick, but using it to filter the Internet is just disgusting. They should devote their time to catch people who upload that stuff instead. Or are they so desperate that they are uploading it themselves, so they have an argument to shut The Pirate Bay down? Let’s hope not.

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I'm not a fan of the whole p2p stuff, but i have been keeping a close watch on the whole PirateBay fiasco, and maybe this could be just another publicity stunt by the piratebay again, simply because if what they are saying is true, then i would expect that if they can use that sort of digital warfare to close them down, whom else could they do the same thing to.?

Discuss... :)

Ask yourself why Al Capone got 11 years in Joliet?

Then you might begin to understand.......?

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First of all the Swedish anti-piracy lobby groups. They stated at an official meeting in Stockholm that child porn could be used for anti-piracy issues

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Are the RIAA and MPAA claiming copyright on CP?

It is either:

1. Totally unacceptable social behaviour.
2. Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

Both are unacceptable............... but sweden (deliberate lower case) hasn't won a war since Charles XII :cool:

oh crap computers can be used for child porn. were all f*ct.

I don't understand how this is really going to change anything. Didn't TPB get taken down/raided before because the feds were checking there databases.... didn't they come up empty handed? I think theres a bigger chance of finding illegal software on there system then naked kids.

I think its funny that all the different types of p2p is getting hammered and yet good old Usenet still carry s on.

Nope, there is actually NO chance of finding either. They are just an indexing site rather like Google. They do not host any of the material themselves.

The insidious thing is that here we have people with an obvious vested interest (anti-piracy lobby groups) trying to use something they have no responsibility for, and probably no interest in, as an excuse to further their own ends.

This can only serve to undermine and devalue the efforts of those people and organisations who genuinely do.

Let's face it, the only CP sickos who seem to get caught are small fry who get careless. It seems to be very much underground and torrent sites and the like are far from that?

Child Porn and Terrorists "THAT'S THE TICKET" Don't forget Google hacking safe crackers.

I know that freedom of speech is guaranteed, but is freedom of information? Politicians and lobbyists of the world unite! Close all the library's, burn all the Universities and turn off the Internet.

Only then will every child be safe from bomb touting rag heads and trench coat wearing perverts!

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Oh yea and file sharing - did I mention an end to illegal file sharing?

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Originally Posted by dinowuff

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Oh yea and file sharing - did I mention an end to illegal file sharing?

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Nah, even if you took out the entire internet. Heck, even if you took out the entire internet and every single PC with a CDR/DVDR drive all we would do is go back to "hey mate, can I borrow your <band> CD so I can tape it?"

saying pirate songs/movies hurt the industry is like saying alcohol has a negative effect on the size of the population, yes it does but the effect is negligible and you will never get rid of it.

I think it is time to take a fresh view of all this?

1. Decriminalise file sharing unless it is done for personal gain........... and that includes your banner ads, pay per clicks, and any subsequent selling of the site.

2. Filesharing then becomes a civil matter for the small claims courts :D

3. The costs of "discovery" to be met in full by the plaintiff.

4. Any civil copyright infringement activity detected during an investigation of potential criminal cases to be inadmissible.

That would stir things up nicely :eek:

This will still be going on for years to come....

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Slyck reported last Wednesday that the Swedish Police's were to voluntary request that ISPs recategorize The Pirate Bay as a "child pornography" site. If successful, this action would block Swedish citizens from accessing this highly popular BitTorrent tracker. According to The Pirate Bay's latest blog post, it appears the Swedish Police have backed off this threat.

There's a brief Swedish quote from an unnamed source that translates to, "The child porn filter list distributed this week will NOT contain the pirate bay." It is unknown at this time whether this is a quote from Swedish police.

The Pirate Bay claims to have received no guidance from the Swedish police regarding illegal content on their servers, leaving them to question police motivation.

"They claim that their work has been successful when trying to rid the Internet of child porn. I want to point out that still to this day, the police has not given us one single hint on what content on the site has been containing child porn - and the things we have filtered out has been proven not to be child porn either. So wtf? What is this content their talking about?"

The Pirate Bay is considering legal action against the police, if the concluding portion of the post is not to be taken flippantly.

"We are currently thinking about filing charges against the responsible police officer for slander or official misconduct, and we will continue to investigate the actions they have taken."

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http://www.slyck.com/story1529_The_P..._Police_Filter

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I have happened to stumble across many other illegal files at TPB in the past. Haven't been there since last year.

Also heard rumors that it shut down a few times too. I fear that this world is no longer a place for TPB.

Hmmmm,

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I have happened to stumble across many other illegal files at TPB in the past.

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"Stumble" and "illegal files". Now, how do you know that they were illegal?.......... without downloading them?:shocked:

If PB is vulnerable to this sort of thing then imagine just how much more so Google and Yahoo! must be?

I'm not sure you people are getting my point Nihil is a child molester - Statement is made denial is not just a river in Egypt any more so Nihil disputing this statement is worthless... So we all should go through Nihils private property - PC files, Bedroom closet, tax history, credit card history, spending history, library checkout history, I mean after all if he isn't a child molester, what does he have to hide?

I've actually been looking into this alot as I live in America lol, I honestly think this whole file sharing mess is rediculous, ever since napster things have gone crazy here lol. I can see on the child porn issue, but as long as file sharing is legal in some countries, they should see the internet as one, just my 2 cents :) also check this out http://www.zeropaid.com/news/story.php?id=8877

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Hmmmm,



"Stumble" and "illegal files". Now, how do you know that they were illegal?.......... without downloading them?:shocked:

If PB is vulnerable to this sort of thing then imagine just how much more so Google and Yahoo! must be?

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There were propietary programs that were being distributed illegally. There were lots before, but now I'm guessing that they're gone now.

It is my responsibility to report these crimes.

Ah!

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There were propietary programs that were being distributed illegally. There were lots before, but now I'm guessing that they're gone now.

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That is breach of copyright which is not a crime in many countries, it is merely a civil misdemeanour, and has to be resolved in a civil court under civil law. Criminal actions are pursued by the law enforcement agencies and are prosecuted in a criminal court.

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It is my responsibility to report these crimes.

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Really? and why might that be? Sure, you should report criminal acts, but not civil misdemeanours. Those are entirely at your discretion, and should be reported to the offended party, not the law enforcement agencies.

As I said, PB do not host the information, only index it. So, why don't you report your telephone company, because their directory allows criminals to contact eachother, given that they index them?

Incidentally, have you ever heard the expression "Quisling"?

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