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Hey Guys and girls,
I'm a newbie when it comes to web development, and I just bought a domain name :D. The domain is now registerd but I have no idea on what to do next, I searched the net but all I could find was info on how to design and do html and all that...... this isn't what I want!! as I'm not even there yet.
Can you guys help me out on step by step thing, on the best and cheapest possible way to set up this thing?
Any comments are welcome please feel free to say whatever....
TK
Ok, so you have registered your domain - the next thing you need to do is find a cheap hosting company.
But first, what do you intend on doing with the website, is it to be database driven or just plain text/images?
Do you know any programming languages?
Search for a hosting provider. There's a couple of million of them.. You can rent a bit of space on a server and host your site there.
Thank you Sirdice, you're always a help. I understand that the next thing is to find a host that will host it.... Did you say rent a bit of space on a server?Quote:
Originally Posted by SirDice
would this be free/cheaper?
Wolfetone, Thank you I intend on setting up something like a store with a checkout.... I'm looking at host companies but geez theres soooooooo many.
Oh yes I have a book on HTML and XHTML.
Well if you need a checkout system, then you need a Hosting Company which supports a database SQL/MySQL etc and either ASP/PHP.
Just things to consider. Any yes you will have to pay for hosting with these features.
I think I found one that supports these. just another Question here .... The host company has a monthly rate, do they make you a web design and launch it for you or is that asking too much?Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfeTone
You basically have 2 options as far as hosting is concerned.. One is dedicated hosting, here you'll rent a full server and you get full access to the machine to do whatever you want. The other is called shared hosting, with this you just get a bit of space on a server. This server is shared with others like you. Shared is cheaper but is usually a bit more limited as to what can be run on it. Looking at what you want to do I think shared hosting will do for now.
Things to look for are email (you'll probably want to send/receive email on your domain name), database (sometimes you have to pay extra for this)..
And about the content.. You need to create it.. Or hire someone that can do it for you. Hosting providers only give you a place and the infrastructure to run your site.
Thanks dude :) They don't say if they'll give me a full server or not, but that's the cheaper option so I figured it must be the other were you share, which is fine by me.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirDice
Here's the one I was looking at getting for 14.95
http://www.webhosting.com/WHCWEB/shared/windows/
http://gate.com/
i used gate.com always and looks like its cheaper than what you found with all the features and some ?? look thru it the cheapest plan is 9.95/mo and you get more website space and date transfer etc....
http://www.gate.com/unix/mach_1.htm
The easiest and cheapest solution is to buy your domain hosting before you buy your domain name, for two reasons: most hosting firms will throw in a free domain name (so you won't have to buy it separately), and you won't have to deal with the mess often created (DNS records...) when ordering your hosting from a different company than your domain name (I've had cases where it took days and tons of phone calls).
As for web hosting: there are thousands of options available, as already pointed out. The AT&T hosting Broomiebar posted sounds ridiculously expensive to me... so does Copyright's for that matter :D
I use eBoundHost for all my domains: for $9.95 a month, you get 3,000 GB transfer (compare to Copyright's 200GB), 300GB space (compare to Copyright's 5GB), 5,000 mailboxes (compared to Copyright's 500), and a free domain name. They have one for $6.95 a month, too (also with a free domain name).
Holy **** Neg, i like your option more than mine too, thanks for that one :)
I suggest you do some more research through google and follow forums which are fully dedicated to website hosting and such. I would strongly suggest spend some quality time going through posts in webmasters forum. " http://www.webmasterworld.com/home.htm ". If you do your research before asking questions things seems much more easier to understand.
Also one more thing to note is that, even though life will be easier for you if you learn/understand html/php/css , it's definately not a pre-requisite, you will probably go by fine without even knowing any of those in the short term, in the long term it would be wise to get yourself accustomed to it. The reason I am saying this is because it seems like you want to go professional with this site and if you will add checkout system and such, there is absolutely no way you will learn coding in 1 month (php/javascript), you will probably end up using automated portals like mambo and joomla.
Like I said spend some quality time doing online reaseach, hacking forum is perhaps not the best place IMO, with all due respect.
Cheers,
pavs
I currently use StreamLine ( http://www.streamline.net/ ) I have the unlimnited package for £68 ish per year.
I get everything I need for the fee including unlimited bandwidth, which is what ultimatley made me go with them.
From start to finish it takes about 5 minutes to create, setup and have access to. Obviously DNS takes a little longer.
You can chose between Linux or Windows and a whole range of different databases, scripting options etc.
Just a note, there is nothing known as unlimited bandwidth. It's not possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nokia
http://www.findmyhosting.com/truthunlimited.htm
cheers
pavs
Depends on how you look at it... There are - contrary to what the article seems to hint at - hosting providers that do not put limits on traffic. When Nokia says "unlimited bandwidth", I understand it to mean (as does he, I bet) "unlimited traffic," meaning that they won't shut down your site after x gigabytes of traffic. Of course this doesn't mean that the site's server can take 5 billion connections per second, or that the server can transfer gigabytes of data per second, which is what the article explains.Quote:
Just a note, there is nothing known as unlimited bandwidth. It's not possible.
http://www.findmyhosting.com/truthunlimited.htm
If someone says "unlimited bandwidth" when talking about a host, I take it to mean "no limits on montly traffic, other than the limits inherent to the hardware."
Actually there is a limit to the bandwidth, it's not just about hardware. let's say I will host a video streaming server, they will just not allow you to do it for 68 bucks a month.
It's just a ploy to get in customers, if you don't read the fine lines you are screwed.
cheers,
pavs
And actually - as I already pointed out in my above post - there are hosters that do not have the "fine lines", that do not have traffic limits, no matter how many times you're going to say that there are.Quote:
Actually there is a limit to the bandwidth, it's not just about hardware. let's say I will host a video streaming server, they will just not allow you to do it for 68 bucks a month.
Ok I will admit I am wrong...
As long as you give me atleast one site that supports your point.
cheers,
pavs
Again, those limits are because of the hardware, not because your hosting provider wants to "trick you" - you'll see that disclaimers on "unmetered" or "unlimited" traffic only mention hardware limitations, as I'll demonstrate especially for you below.
A simple example of what most hosters do when they offer "unlimited traffic":
- Hoster offers a shared 10MBps pipe, shared by all "unlimited traffic" customers. That 10MBps is not metered, and its limit is a hardware limit, namely that it can only transfer 10 MB per second.
- 10MB per second = 25,920,000 MB per month <-- that right there is the limit, and that limit is determined by the hardware and by nothing else. QED.
Perhaps I'm not reading this right but....
http://www.streamline.net/uu.phpQuote:
Un-restricted Visitor Bandwidth:
Bandwidth (data transfer) is a measure of the amount of data transferred by your Website. For example if your Website is a total of 1mb and 1000 people view it in one month the bandwidth used for that month would be 1000mb (1Gb). If we cannot host your Website due to high bandwidth we will refund the entire hosting fee.
Pavs yes there is a physical limit to how many bits persecond you push...that is not the relivent issue, some ISP's limit your bits per day, or bits per month, soem even drop your site when you reach that limit....ISP's tha offer unlimited bandwidth do not have daily or monthly caps.
I say this as the former owner of a hosting company that had no caps.
Broomie,
It sounds like you want to get really in depth and professional with this site but you should at least (at least) spend 6 months learning the in's and out's of web programming and security. For the type of site you are wanting to make, security is at utmost importance for an e-commerce site like that. I have spent almost a year learning about online transactions, database design and all areas of securing it. Im still learning and don't think I will ever be able to stop because of the constant technology changes. Just one book on HTML will not cut it for what im guessing what you want to do with your site. You will need books on PHP/ASP/ASP.NET depending on which language you choose. Then you will need to learn the security practices to make sure the site and its customers stay protected. Also you will need to learn about the technologies that usually follow along such as XML, JS, SSL, etc.
As far as what hosting you should choose. Take your time and research all of the options. i spent a few weeks looking into who i wanted for my sites and ended up choosing (i guess i'll throw my choice out there too) ixwebhosting. Mainly because they gave us a freaking amazing deal on a business plan. If you are wanting to make an online store, i would suggest getting something more than the basic plan because those plans normally don't seem to accommodate online stores needs. Usually database size is limited along with bandwidth and storage size. But, for learning purposes, a basic plan would work great and save you money while you hone your web skills.
Sorry for the rant. I just wanted to share some of what took me a long time(and counting :) ) to learn.
Good luck
Ok bballad hear me out. With all due respect I don't know what you guys think unlimited means, but this is EXACTLY what unlimited means:Quote:
Originally Posted by bballad
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/unlimited
1. not limited; unrestricted; unconfined: unlimited trade.
2. boundless; infinite; vast: the unlimited skies.
3. without any qualification or exception; unconditional.
So I don't understand where "Unlimited Bandwidth as long as it is within the limits of a 10MBps" means "Unlimited Bandwidth".
What you "think" they mean by unlimited is not the point. Hence, it's a wrong advertisement.
Cheers,
pavs
pavs: I clearly stated that "If someone says "unlimited bandwidth" when talking about a host, I take it to mean "no limits on montly traffic, other than the limits inherent to the hardware," and you wrongly decided to start arguing about the "hardware" part in the statement.
"Unlimited" has a specific meaning in this case, which I explained above. If you're so flabbergasted by this, check the example of "unlimited" you posted: "the unlimited skies." Last time I checked, the skies aren't unlimited in the meaning you try to pin on it ;)Quote:
What you "think" they mean by unlimited is not the point.
I still think it's false advertisement, But we can have different opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Negative
cheers,
pavs
Resepct
Thank you Mungyun, I might have rushed with it but I just wanted to secure the web names before they get taken as I had quite a trouble finding anything untaken. I sure will take my own time now finding a reliable host, as well as learning all those names you suggested.Quote:
Originally Posted by mungyun
I plan on slowly developing it within 1 year, and that will give me plenty of time to learn but thanks for those pointers I'll make sure to get into them at some point along the way, Thank you.
I actually found a better offer than the AT&T but that's even better than that one too. Thank you Negative, Wow! I think it's cool that you've become a mod, Congratulations Man!.Quote:
Originally Posted by Negative
I've been a mod for as long as I can remember :DQuote:
I think it's cool that you've become a mod, Congratulations Man!.
Good luck with the site ;)
OK, found it !
Unlimited space, unlimited bandwidth, php, mysql, ftp ....
and no ads for FREE, check it out .
http://www.igotfree.com/
security may be an issue on that last one, depending on how they have php setup it may be an invitation to be hacked...is it too much to ask a hosting provider to turn register globals off???