I would like to know how to add my third party scsi drivers to be loaded by my install disk. My machine does not normaly have a floppy drive and I would like to install xp without opening the case again. Any help would be appreciated.
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I would like to know how to add my third party scsi drivers to be loaded by my install disk. My machine does not normaly have a floppy drive and I would like to install xp without opening the case again. Any help would be appreciated.
If you don't want to press F6 AND load third party drivers maybe you should pick a different OS. If Windows doesn't have support for the thing you're trying to install drivers for then you're just going to have live with pressing that button, or...
You can haxxor teh Windowz XP installation CD and haxx0r teh dr1v3r5 into teh K3rn3l
...Seriously this is JUST because you don't want to press a button?
As gore commented..Quote:
Originally Posted by stumpylizard
Here is my slant.. You could burn the drivers to a CD or copy to a usb drive.. (haven't tried the later)... the cd option sometimes have issues if you dont have a 2nd cd/dvd drive..
or you can..
slipstream the drivers into your XP install CD.. sofware .try. nlite.. a good start.. have a good read..
http://www.nliteos.com/
MS also have info on slipstreaming ... I don't have the links to hand and too busy to search.. sry ..google it?
nLite is a good solution IMHO.
You can slipstream the latest service pack as well as your drivers ;)
Just to comment on what Nihil said:
That's a VERY good idea. Most Windows machines don't last to long on the net before something happens. You probably don't have time to even download all those updates and reboot for all of them before something tries to grab your box.
It's like putting a Redneck cop in the middle of Detroit with a huge badge and no gun.
Or I can maybe simplify this further:
Imagine your computer getting a prostate exam by Dr Captain Hook.
I've done fresh installs and I generally have at LEAST a hardware firewall blocking it to get updates installed. I also have SP2 on CD.
Any idiot would know to disable the upnp and dcom services.Quote:
You probably don't have time to even download all those updates and reboot for all of them before something tries to grab your box.
Wellllll, I Guess if YOU know about that.... ;)
(Obviously I'm kidding if I actually need to point that out, to the others, I know YOU know that).
Here are some instructions:
http://www.andrewconnell.com/blog/ar...XpInstall.aspx
I am sorry but I have been a computer tech for 6 years and I have never seen such a thing happen. I am not sure where you get your information from.Quote:
Originally Posted by gore
I have heard about this as well, never tried myself, but a google search pulled this link:Quote:
Originally Posted by oofki
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5313402.html
Hmm, either your customers are smart, or you just don't do many jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by oofki
I've seen in person more than 3 times a machine get basically spanked after a fresh install of XP.
We also did this at my college:
The admins set up a few test machines, unpatched, and didn't put them behind the school's firewall.
I believe the exact time was under 20 minutes before it had an infection.
My cousin a while back bought a new desktop, didn't install updates or have a firewall, and within ONE week, 7 Trojans and 1200 pieces of spyware.
Now he may be a special case because he DID surf the web with it, but the college set up test wasn't.
I'm also a tech, and clean up this crap weekly off people's machines.
So far the record is 98 Trojans + 134 Malware apps + viruses on a laptop the customer used for payroll and taxes.
Actually, a lot depends on the environment you are working in. If you deal with the general public you will see it fairly frequently (depending on age, usage, surfing habits etc.). In a corporate environment you won't.............. well you shouldn't............. and you would normally be doing a mirror image unattended.Quote:
Hmm, either your customers are smart, or you just don't do many jobs.
I slipstream my OSes so all I have to do is reinstall without going near the internet with an unpatched machine.;)
I guess it would be because 95% of my customers are behind routers. Other then that I havent seen anything like that since pre-sp1
The router is probably why. Most of them seem to ahve some form of firewall or blocking built into them, so that would of course throw a hammer into the malware machine trying to infect the box.
These as I said were placed outside the firewall at the college, and the others had no firewall at all. A machine with a direct connection to the net and no firewall at all to stop anything won't really have time to install patches before something finds it's way in.
That is crazy to think about how fast you can get your computer "owned" (as someone may put it)...
I would slipstream vista but by the time I got done burning it, there would be 50 new updates =)
just keep your AV/Firewall on a disc, install both of those, then go for the updates/patches... That kinda makes me want to test this, and see how fast it takes to get an infection!
@ ArPaNET:
Damning your case with over-exaggerations there ole chap?Quote:
I would slipstream vista but by the time I got done burning it, there would be 50 new updates =)
Vista actually has the fewest updates of NT 4.0, N.T. 5.0, and XP. I guess you would say that M$ have given up :D
OK.............. Vista is a bit bloated for a CD :eek: but I could burn a slipstreamed version in around 15minutes.
I guess it all boils down to how often you might want to use this facility? I build a new mirror each patch Tuesday. Then all I need to do is pull applications and data........... hey, you don't think that real men have stopped eating quiche and started backing up?
Fortunately, most apps let you d/l an update rather than the full Monty.:eek:
Thank you for all your help. did a search on slipstreaming and I was able to find detailed instructions. I will let you know if it works.
So is everyone telling me, Xp sp2 installed. AVG free + windows firewall. I connect to the internet to download updates.
There is a chance I will still get infected?
The link to the "Guide" in that article doesnt work.
If you have AVG and SP2 on CD (Which I do as well as Spybot and Ad-Aware) and the machine isn't hooked up to the net while you install those, then your chances of that aren't exactly high.
What I was talking about is a fresh pre-SP2 machine my college had set up, put in front of the firewall, and yes, before updates could all even start to install, it was infected.
It doesn't exactly help that most updates need a reboot and that Microsoft now makes you download and install some verify you aren't a pirate **** before Windows Update works at all.
When I re-installed on my laptop, I was sitting there swearing at the thing while it installed the new Windows update crap before I could actually install real updates, and then started thinking about a few customers I've done work for, where they had a Dell machine with BIOS before A06 and how if they followed the instructions and auto downloaded and installed every update SP2 would be one of them turning the machine into a door stop.
I'm sure we can remember that lol ;) SP2 + Dell + BIOS before A06 = very expensive paper weight.
As I said though, if you install that stuff including SP2 from a CD and the machine isn't on the net, the chance you're going to have a problem isn't nearly as high but, I don't leave the thing on long enough until everything is installed to find out because all my machines are doing stuff now so I don't have a Windows test box now.
Dell has a utility where you put the drivers in some folder, run their utility and it'll create a boot partition on your USB device to load your drivers in RAM before it even gets to the windows install portion of the OS. It can be used with any computer, not just Dell. It has saved me on several occasions since most systems don't come with a floppy anymore and carrying around a usb floppy just adds weight to your toolkit.
Helps if I include the link... lol
http://support.dell.com/support/down...&fileid=193842
Oh, I think they have a utility that will also create a boot cd to do the same thing... but I never tried that one. USB flash is so cheap now I use that for almost everything.
I have the CD and the floppy. Just found the floppy: it is A09
If your BIOS is before A06 I would expect the PC to have one............ that is back in the days of PIIIs and Millenium Edition :eek:Quote:
since most systems don't come with a floppy anymore
@Cider
These infections are from bots scanning ranges of IP addresses. Your firewall or router should prevent your PC from replying, so the bot moves on. I look on that as the first line of defence.............. your machine shouldn't be "talkin durty to strangers" :D:cool:
Heh, good :)