http://www.microsoft.com/windows/int...explorer/beta/
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Geez. I haven't even started using 7 (heck, half the sites I know won't work properly with 7) :P
Does 8 actually work?
I'll let you know after I reboot :D
Yes, it actually works.
Which version of Windows are you running it on?
IE7's a different animal on Vista than it is on XP. Seen a lot
of issues with ActiveX applets on Vista that don't happen in
XP. I kinda surprised they even ported IE8 to XP. Oh well,
I'll give 'er a test drive.
Oh, how I love the idea of the "porn mode" in IE8. Lovely that M$ is actually listening to the masses, not about security or usability, but about keeping the IT guy from seeing that you're malware comes from porn sites.
:thumbsup:
I have been using the beta since it's 1st public release.
I have had to use the switch from ie8 to ie7 compatability option a few times now, especially on the windows update site. But it looks like they have finally fixed that little bug and now they accept it as internet explorer. :)
Almost makes me pine for the ol' days when your biggest worry was if your floppy was infected. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KorpDeath
Looks like "pr0n mode" isn't so private.
"Forensic experts however found it trivial to retrieve the history, according to a test by Webwereld, an IDG affiliate in the Netherlands, and Fox IT, a Dutch firm specializing in IT security and forensic research."
http://www.itworld.com/internet/5457...s-private-data
OK, excuse some ignorance on my part, but I haven't used Windows much in almost 2 years.... so WTF is Pron mode? I don't have IE8, so I'm interested.
Dunno.. always thought that it was when ever the wife was out of the room - so is it a fake SMS from a GF to get her out of the house for a while?Quote:
Originally Posted by gore
I love it when all these security IT what ever's pop up and are quick to point out problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by brokencrow
I mean it's still in "Beta" off course there's going to be something prown to go wrong. :rolleyes:
I'm not taking a cheap shot at the quoted poster either ;) .
Running Xp sp3.
Downloaded and isntalled, no problem.
It asked me to restart, I said later, double clicked on the icon on the desktop and it created a shotcut , wouldnt run, wierd :)
Restarted , launched it and threw out an error message.
Opened a second window and is running fine.
I am using mozilla version three so just wana know are there any benfits using ie over that because ie takes very much ram and hang very much
also very less features are avilable
Hmm Which Mozilla browser? Are you talking of Firefox one of their other browsers? If it is FF3 that I had assumed it was, then it is not a good recommendation for reliable browser.Quote:
Originally Posted by devil_ankur18
IF IE7 is hanging all the time you have a lot more problems there than just IE7.. especially if it has become a memory hog (it isn't perfect.. but it isn't that bad)
I use the ie7pro addon:Quote:
Originally Posted by devil_ankur18
http://www.ie7pro.com/
It comes with a heap of addons, and you can even add more if needed. :)
And there are always new user scripts being added, not to mention it has an AdBlocking addon that can be used, kind of like AdBlock Plus and it's easy to find a good filter list that can be intergrated with it also. :thumbsup:
I'd feel that I've somehow degraded myself by using Firefox. Honestly.Quote:
so just wana know are there any benfits using ie over that
I've been using Firefox for a long time. I don't use ti much anymore because it seems to have gotten more and more sluggish on resources to the point I only use it for specific things.
I generally use either Seamonkey, Galeon, or something else like Dillo.
Hmmmm,
Which operating system and SP are we talking about here?Quote:
IF IE7 is hanging all the time you have a lot more problems there than just IE7.. especially if it has become a memory hog (it isn't perfect.. but it isn't that bad)
When an application becomes a memory hog it frequently indicates that you have some sort of conflict............. possibly with anti-malware, firewall, and AV applications? What are you running interactively?
Also, what hardware (mainly RAM and processor) are you using?
usually when i open microsoft site using ie7 it hang the whole system
this is not the case with firefox three
firefox also had a plenty of pluging which are not available in ie
are there any majour security isue for which some of u are not recomding firefox
Only time I have seen a Hang with IE6 or 7 on an MS site has been when I am looking at a multi malware infection.. latest was SDBOT..Quote:
Originally Posted by devil_ankur18
So you must be having a hell of a time if you do a manual update.. is the auto update working? (well at least notifying you of available updates)
FF 2 or 3 with out a good script blocking addon is like hanging a sign around your neck.. "ass for any takers"
BTW.. FF3 is my default browser on this machine
And there are plugins available for IE7..some are free..
And MAny here are NOT IE fanboys.. we will call a spade a spade.. in your situation your blaming the car for the flat tyre not the hole in the tyre.
And we are not recommending IE.. we are just pointing out that from your description.. your installation COULD have a problem.. not a innate issue with IE..
Almost all browsers as of late have some sort of extension mechanisms. In a nutshell, there are almost no limitations to the features you can add to these applications.Quote:
firefox also had a plenty of pluging which are not available in ie
Applications are always the least privileged within hierarchical protection domains, and therefore, should not be much of a security concern to begin with.Quote:
are there any majour security isue for which some of u are not recomding firefox
People who don't see my point likely have never properly setup their account or noticed the policy manager in XP. Better yet... completely ****ed alot of things already in place when they've upgraded to Vista.
"My computer isn't safe but atleast my browser is." - Haha!
IE7:
http://secunia.com/product/12366/
FF3 hasn't been released for long enough to really see. There were a number of vulnerabilities when it was first launched in July, but I am not aware of any major outstanding ones.
IE8 is still in beta. You shouldn't test beta software on a production machine.
A computer is as secure as its weakest link, which is almost inevitably its user ;)
Hope it is good!
Not a cheap shot!? Yar, I hope you didn't pay too much... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by t34b4g5
I use about all the browsers on a variety of OS's (Linux & Windows).
Opera's been my favorite lately, as it was in the late 90's when I bought
a copy of v3.62 (what a great browser that was!). Opera does indeed
seem to come closer to rendering webpages similarly to IE.
I've had bad experiences with Firefox 3 on older computers. Seems
fine on newer hardware, but I'll be sticking with FF2 for now. For secure
browsing, it's hard to beat FF w/ the NoScript plug-in. Does anybody
here really have trust issues with NoScript?
I avoided using IE until the last two years when I ended up in a string
of "Windows shops". An IIS intranet composed from MS Office often
does not play well with other browsers. IE7 Pro looks very interesting
(thanks for that one!). IE8 seems to me to be a lot like IE7.
Browsers are like cars...if it gets you there, fine.
I think that you totally missed the point. They were not "pointing out problems" as far as I can see, they were just explaining what this new "security measure" does and doesn't do.Quote:
I love it when all these security IT what ever's pop up and are quick to point out problems.
I mean it's still in "Beta" off course there's going to be something prown to go wrong.
Basically, what they said was that the feature will hide potentially sensitive information from casual observers. It will not hide it from a forensic style analysis (neither will FF) even one that does not involve physically dismantling the HDD.
So, we can take it that this does not comply with MoD, DoD and NSA standards.
:)
Also worth mentioning, while the pr0n mode may hide the browsing you do on your local PC (on the surface level), it will still show up in your company's firewall's logs, which is where most activity of that nature is spotted.
So pr0n mode != field day
This review is interesting:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/inde...ID=103870&pn=1Quote:
"IE8 is epically porcine," said Barth. "Microsoft has gone to epic levels of bloat."
I would suggest that we are not taking account of hardware developments?
IE8 was probably designed to operate in a Vista-like hardware environment?
Personally, I take the view that if I have the resources then I don't mind using them. If I have 512Mb of unused RAM it might as well be in my desk drawer?
If I have old hardware, the first thing I take into account is what it is capable of, when selecting software.
IE8 is bloatware? Doh, it's MS.
I uninstalled IE8 last night on my XP test unit and
it was listed at only 4-something MB's. Uninstalling
took it back to IE7. Sounds like IE8 total size will
be around 25 MB's.
There in lays an interesting area of debate:Quote:
Originally Posted by nihil
The building of Apps to use every bit of the current hardware/resources.. or building efficient apps that use few resources.. so the user can run more (different) applications.
Like i discussed with a group the other day.. $500 SOHO equipment or $500 Solitaire machine (Substitute the value of your standard market PC)
Well, for specialist applications such as CAD you would tend to go for the former because the app will generally be run in "dedicated mode" anyway. For other apps you would go for the latter, or should do.Quote:
The building of Apps to use every bit of the current hardware/resources.. or building efficient apps that use few resources.. so the user can run more (different) applications.
The problems, as I see them are:
1. The rush to get new releases on the market to stay up with competitors.
2. The desire to have new releases with more "features" to encourage people to pay for upgrades.
3. Hardware platforms getting progressively more powerful so allowing sloppy programming, or at least not providing an incentive to make applications as lean and efficient as possible. The mindset almost seems to be: "we can get away with that on today's hardware"?
4.People upgrading software without considering the hardware implications.
Having looked at the "pr0n mode" a bit more, it seems that it is only intended to stop you leaking information to websites you visit.