Quad core its mother board and electricity bill

Hey guyz how are you all..

i had been busy for a long time

but i have some questions with you poeple please help me

i am planning to a buy a whole new PC and i am considering electricity bill as a problem in it

i am planning to a quadcore intel chip and the best compactible mother board with it 512 GB hard disc and to compare with 4 GB of DDR2 ram

now my worry is that poeple are telling me that quad core and its compactible mother board will consume double the electricity then core2duo and the compactible mother board

can any one give me a little help here and explain me the fact please i m helpless and you guyz are the only one i can trust

Thanks and regards
KK

If your planning on leaving the new system left turned on 24hours a day 7days a week then yeah it will use more power.

But if you are only going to use it, and shut it off then it shouldn't use that much power.

Hey thx Tea bag,

yes that is absolutely ture,

any ways can you suggest me a good mother board to support quad core processor

please

Hey guyz,

i wanted to know some good suggest for the compactible motherbaoard for Quadcore Intel Processor which would give me the best speed with the processor..

bcoz as when i go to the retail shop they give me all different suggestion in different shops

Thanks
KK

Its really preference, I ALWAYS build with Asus but other people love Gigabyte, Abit, and MSI.

Hi KK,

Here is an article on power consumption by PCs.

Remember that it is the whole system that consumes power, not just the processor, and that the amount is quite different between standby and full load.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-po...iew-30798.html

Hi KK,

Is this what you are thinking about?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=CP-161-IN

Please check out the product reviews tab................as oofki suggests, there doesn't seem to be much difference between motherboards. Personally I use Gigabyte or Asus.

For a similar FSB speed, different boards from the quality manufacturers will be within a few percent of eachother. I guess I would look at RAM, graphics and HDD performance first.

Remember, this is a highly competitive market, so you are unlikely to see significant performance differences between similarly priced compatible boards. :)

EDIT:

Here are the latest processor comparison charts:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ssor,2031.html

I would suggest that if you go for what Tom uses you won't go far wrong

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Originally Posted by kingkong

Hey thx Tea bag,

yes that is absolutely ture,

any ways can you suggest me a good mother board to support quad core processor

please

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What brand of processor are you planning on buying? :confused:

I suppose the argument would lie somewhere between Intel and AMD ....

I have been a long time fan of AMD however, have not used an AMD PC in a number of years. During that time it has been Intel all the way, and I would have difficulty faulting my experience with Intel.

I am no expert on the fine details of processors however, if anyone has strong point of view or advice/opinion on this subject, lets discuss it :!

Always eager to learn more.

CTO

Well CTO, this is how I see it right now:

1. Intel are top dogs with their 45nm technology............. I think........... their top chip for us mere mortals is about $1,250?

2. AMD are firmly competing in the mid to mid-upper quartile.

3. AMD had a lot of technical problems with their quad core architecture, but I am going for a Phenom X4 9950 BE I guess they are running at $174 (USD) at NewEgg these days?

4. Otherwise I think that the somewhat older Intel Core2 Quad 6600 is a good value buy.

5. Buy two and just overclock them :D two are cheaper than the latest stuff ;)

I agree with what Nihil is saying. The benchmarks for each mother board are going to be very close to each other. Some might win in one area and one in another but the end result is about the same. VERY close to being the same (when using the same chipsets/fsb/controllers/memory/etc)

Personally i would choose this processor from AMD

AMD Black Edition - AMD Phenom X4 9950

http://www.google.com/products/catal...795#ps-sellers

here's a quick review of this processor:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-ph...ocessor-tested

:)

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AMD Black Edition - AMD Phenom X4 9950

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If you want one of those, make DAMN SURE you get a motherboard with the 790GX/SB750 chipset............... otherwise buy Intel :p:cool: There is a fair bit of older crap with the SB600 chipset still on the market.

Also make sure you have a power supply of 850 Watts or better, and try to get an OEM CPU rather than a boxed retail version. You don't really want a stock heatsink and fan with a CPU that is intended to be overclocked ;)

Hi all,

Give me some suggestions i have been fooled or what ever you can say but this is a mistake i did and i need to stay with it but for now i need you guyz help..


i got some suggestion from the local market that Quad has not been properly launched and its not advisable to purchase right now may be later you can add it on later when you plan to upgrade it and below is what i did...


i purchased
Mother Board : NVIDIA GeForce 7100 and nForce 630i
Processor : Intel Core 2 Duo
Ram : 2 GB 1 Stick of Transcend
250 GB hard Disk Sata

and retailer told me that you dont need a graphic card as it has a on board graphic card i believed the retailer and now the result is that i am getting a error when i play a game once in every 3 times i play the game and the error is as below well i was not able to read the whole error as it shows up for 2 sec in a blue screen and yellow letters and the comp restarts but it has some of the lines in it which i was able to read.

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If this error has come for the first time then ....................................................................
You need to check with the vendor hardware.............................................................................
or else try disabling the shadow ............................................

Update your Bios

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Some thing like above

and i have already replaced the ram and the whole mother board but the error keeps coming again and again

and i have good support of the retailer

please help
KK

Make sure you have your memory in pairs/in the correct configuration. Also make sure you are providing extra power to things that require it (some motherboards and some gfx cards)

Memory in pairs no as i mentioned it carries 1 Ram Stick of 2GB DDR2 and the mother has 2 Ram Slots in which one is filled and other is empty

power supply is proper no issue with it

I would also check for driver updates from the manufacturer website - especially for the onboard graphics. I dont think it is hardware related - It would be more consistent.

Although the retailer is correct, you dont need a video card as it is built-in to the mainboard, if you are wanting to run 3d graphic games or any other video intense application, you really do need some form of graphic card - anything is better than nothing.


CTO

[edit] Also check the game readme file - There will be a section listing 'known problems'. Make sure your hardware is not on that list. [/edit]

I am confused by this statement:

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and i have already replaced the ram and the whole mother board but the error keeps coming again and again

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Was this a new box with a clean install of the OS and you had trouble so began replacing the new items,
or did you use your old hard drive and OS and just replace motherboard?
If the later you may have old stray drivers conflicting, etc.

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blue screen and yellow letters

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Usually when I see yellow ( vs. white ) letters it indicates video problems.

As CybertecOne said, the onboard card is not the best for gaming.
Check the motherboard manufacturer for updated drivers.
And while checking the game readme, also check the readme that comes with the video drivers for known problems.

1. What is the operating system?
2. Is it just one particular game or all games?

Onboard video chipsets are not intended for heavy duty graphics processing. They are for SOHO, entertainment centres and general computing.

Check that you have the video chipset sharing 256Mb of RAM and not 128Mb.

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Originally Posted by nihil

Check that you have the video chipset sharing 256Mb of RAM and not 128Mb.

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Sorry to knock what your saying nihil :p But i doubt it would matter how much video sharing there is, it doubt it would have this problem. You would only find that the less ram available for video, the slower the render is drawn to the screen (slower gameplay/response) or complete lockup of the system.

In saying that, if there was a fault with the RAM on a hardware level, it would explain the problems being described.

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If this error has come for the first time then ....................................................................
You need to check with the vendor hardware.............................................................................
or else try disabling the shadow ............................................

Update your Bios

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Some thing like above

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In that blue screen, there is actually a very specific string of text that you havent identified. It defines what caused the error - usually it relates to RAM or a specific file/error. If it comes up again, make further notes on what the message actually says.


CTO

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Sorry to knock what your saying nihil :p But i doubt it would matter how much video sharing there is, it doubt it would have this problem.

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I wasn't thinking of the specific problem, but of his gaming and video experience in general. That chipset will share 256Mb if you let it, but I suspect that the default might be 128Mb. It can make quite a difference if you are running Vista ;)

A half-decent video card isn't that expensive, and that is certainly the way I would go. I can't say I know of anyone who is even moderately into gaming who doesn't have a separate video card.

What KK needs to do first is go into his BIOS and change the "restart on error" option to "off", then we can see the exact message on his BSOD.

Hi all,

well as to make my error more clear to you i have clicked a photo by the digi cam and i am attaching the image for making it clear

Under the technical information it describes the problem:

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RtkHDAud.sys

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I believe this is a driver file for your sound hardware, most likely the realtek onboard audio.

If you plug it into google, it will come up with plenty of results on what the file is.

My recommendation is to update the realtek drivers from the manufacturer website. If this error only appears when your playing the game, once again i would say it is a known/common problem which should be in the readme files.

If updating the drivers does not work, and there is no related material in the readme files - I would consider the game a write off. If you really want to play this game, go out and get a $60(AU) sound card, something just half decent.

CTO

Hi CybertecOne,

Yes you are right i showed the same pic to a Friend he told me the same thing

but as this issue is coming with the sound i downloaded the latest drivers but still the error kept repeating and although i also changed the whole motherboard but still it kept repeating

finally on my today morning talk with the retailer he told me that its better i change the brand of the motherboard and puchase a graphic card

If you can help me to find a good mother board which will support graphic card nvidia_geforce_8600_gt_graphics_card and the Core2Duo 2.53 , 2GB DDR2 RAM, 250GB HDD i was looking forward towards Asus,Giga Byte which one do you suggest guyz? and my budget is around (7,000 Indian Rs)150$ if you understand with the finance problem..

please suggest as i need to purchase it tommorow from him..

Thanks
KK

CTO,

That rings bells but I haven't come across it since XP was first released. There was a time I seem to remember when some audio and video drivers didn't play nice together?

I agree with your suggestion that updating the drivers would be a possible solution. Otherwise I would go for a dedicated video card (and remember to disable onboard video in the BIOS;))

I bought three cards when I started messing with Vista. Two were 256Mb nVidias................ one was certified Vista compliant and cost me £22, and the other wasn't and cost £12......... so I went to their website and downloaded the Vista software................ hmmmmm............ wasted 10 beer vouchers there didn't I?

I also wonder if KK has gone to SP3? assuming that he is using Vista.

Cheers mate,

Johnno

EDIT: KK, I think that CTO has answered your question? Your MoBo has onboard Video and Sound chipsets. If they were incompatible then the board just wouldn't sell to anyone?

The problem would seem to be with your game..................

Hmm Nihil,

as i informed earlier i tried to update the drivers but unfortunately the same problem repeated and i showed the retailer the problem

and the problem does not seems to be of game as the same game runs perfectly in the other PC

where as retailers experts says that this problem is a little tricky as the problems does not occurs every times but it comes once in 3 times i play other 2 times it runs perfectly

any ways retailer has given up finally and now has suggested to change the motherboard to intel mother is this advisable??

or not as i wouldbe going to the retailer tomorow morning i have only 10 hours remaining with me to make the dicision...

im out :)


CTO

Well, I don't suppose it will do any harm.

I would like to make the following observations and suggestions, which I will admit are based on certain assumptions regarding your computers.

1. Your new system is running Vista and your old one runs XP?
2. Your operating systems and copies of the game are legitimate versions, and not pirated?
3. The game version is correct for the operating system on both machines?

If those assumptions are correct then it would seem that you have an incompatibility issue between Vista, your game and the video and sound drivers.

The only other possibility would be defective RAM, but I recall that you have already tried changing that?

Things that might help:

1. Try muting the sound, and disconnecting the speakers to see if the game performs correctly without it.
2. Go into Vista and set up a gaming user profile with XP "compatibility mode" for that game.
3. Borrow or buy a cheap audio card and video card. Start with the Video and test that first as it will release RAM for general systems use.
4. Check that your "performance" settings are for "applications" rather than background services. If that is the current setting, then change it to the other one anyway.
5. In your new "gaming profile" turn off EVERYTHING that you don't need for the game.
6. Check that your version of that particular game is actually supposed to work with your operating system. If it runs unstably then that could explain your experiences.

;)

KK, Go through all the items that nihil has mentioned and get back to us - I will come up with a few more ideas once you come back with some more info :)

Best of luck buddy

CTO