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Haven't logged on in ages. Wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of where those awesome (and seemingly extensive) old text files went. If they are no longer hosted here @ AntiOnline, anyone know of a similair archive of old zines?
Thanks.
Can anyone point me in the direction of those awesome Archived Text files that Antionline used to host? Now all i get is a dead link... Thanks
Hi, welcome back :)
I am afraid that I am not sure what you mean............if you look down the right hand side of the main page you will see "Discussion Forums". Right down the bottom are the links to AO's archived stuff.
Back on the main page, below the contents stuff is the tutorials index.
Or are you referring to the alt.binary newsgroup stuff?...............as far as I am aware that was never actually hosted here............we just had direct links to it; so you would have to go to the newsgroup site.
E-mail and IRC disappeared a long time ago.
Hope that helps :)
Hi, like I said in my reply to your other post (it seemed to have hung up:() but I think that I have freed it so I will merge the two.
I don't really know exactly what you are referring to.........can you give me the dead link and I can take a look for you?
:)
here's the url to the old text files archive:> http://anticode.antionline.com/text-archive.php?
I don't think that they were merged with the database during the big site upgrade that took place a few years back. ( When we upgraded from Jp's version to the default vbulletin 3..* version )
Im still happy because the Tools & Toy's section still works so i get to play hacker hangman and battleships during my boredom moments :D
http://www.antionline.com/tools-and-toys/
Im pretty sure i have a full backup of the text files someplace on my homeserver, i'll do some digging around if not i'm sure there will be a mirrored archive floating around ;)
I win because i'm awesome. ;)
HYBR|D got it right. That's the dead link. Apologies for not being clearer. Major upgrade huh? That explains quite a bit. If anyone else is looking for text files i found a few (albeit ancient ones) here: http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/
Thanks for the help!
anticode.antionline.com disappeared long before the management software upgrade................I believe that there was a reorganisation of the site layout when we changed servers at some stage.Quote:
I don't think that they were merged with the database during the big site upgrade that took place a few years back. ( When we upgraded from Jp's version to the default vbulletin 3..* version )
From what I recall there was a warning that you would have to search around for stuff? I would guess it will be in the archives section but not distinguishable as such.
:)
This is what the Wayback Machine has:http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...antionline.com
Sorry...going off topic
The wayback machine..........how cool is that!!
Thanks nihil :)
MLF
you won't be able to download them as you need to log in.
here's the direct link http://web.archive.org/web/200304132...xt-archive.php
the anticode.com domain was still active and working when JP owned the place. then Jupitermedia took over, and slowly screwed the place up. They bought something they didn't know/understand how to market correctly. :(
when we switched from Jp's vbulletin version to the default vbulletin 3.* version at lot of stuff was not ported over. As you will see from the waybackmachine. ;) just like the tools & toys link from the front page got taken away during the upgrade. Just never got put back. :rolleyes:
And you won't be able to do that because it won't recognise your user profile ;)Quote:
you won't be able to download them as you need to log in.
Actually it wasn't...............certainly not "active" towards the end.........it was just a repository for odds and ends and archived stuff like the obsolete text files (most of which seem to be .zips) and the archived downloads.Quote:
the anticode.com domain was still active and working when JP owned the place.
Actually they turned it into a respectable, professional IT Security and Support site, rather than the skiddiewink site that it had gained a reputation as.Quote:
then Jupitermedia took over, and slowly screwed the place up.
Well they certainly had more expertise that the amateur who sold it for a pittance?Quote:
They bought something they didn't know/understand how to market correctly.
Unfortunately, skiddiewink sites don't generate advertising revenue as skiddiewinks have no purchasing power or influence. Jupitermedia knew what they were doing.
No, I am sure that anticode.antionline.com material went quite a bit earlier, as I have said. If you look at the current (discussion forum) domain of the period you will see that those links just aren't there?Quote:
when we switched from Jp's vbulletin version to the default vbulletin 3.* version at lot of stuff was not ported over.
JPV's problem was that he had no knowledge of the realities of senior IT management, procurement, development, design or architecture. He broke one of the fundamental rules by purchasing a closed source proprietary product and bastardising its inner workings.
If you decide to take this route then you must make sure of one of two things:
1. The modifications are made by the vendor and you have a support contract for YOUR version.
2. You maintain the staff to support the modifications yourself. In which case make sure that you have the source and systems documentation, and keep it up to date.
The preferred approach would be to ringfence the core application and build add-ons, plug-ins, and interfaces; knowing that you would be responsible for systems integration each time the product was upgraded. You could then upgrade the core product, but would need to keep a close eye on the integration issues.
However, JPV and his little elves went their own way :eek:
The net result was that we ended up with a system that couldn't be updated using the vendor's software as it would crash. And the trouble with little elves is that they discover beer, wimmin (or blokes) and purchasing power (or retail therapy) and clear off:D
So, there was no way we could use any updating tools...........we had to do it all by hand.........a very daunting task................
No, that was deliberate...........stuff that didn't work (IP Locator) was just wrong (site statistics), or just did not fit on the front page of a professional site, were removed. Basically, the front page was far too crowded with links that were just irrelevant or obsolete (AO in the news, archived downloads, etc.). As for "Tools & Toys"...............errr............... a link to two poxy DOS games belongs on the front page?:rolleyes:Quote:
As you will see from the waybackmachine. ;) just like the tools & toys link from the front page got taken away during the upgrade. Just never got put back.
The main problem or loss from the upgrade was that because the later version used a quite different mapping convention from our bastardised version, we lost internal links to posts/threads, and correct mapping of polls to threads.
I am not entirely sure, but I think that we lost attachments for the same reason. I know the current size limits are smaller but I cannot imagine the system retrospectively deleting them, and I haven't found a single one that is still there.
Just my perspective on things :)
reserving this space for my response waiting for it to be proof read and OK'd before posting. :halo:Quote:
Originally Posted by nihil
lol. I just usually scan trough four the read squiggly lines. As long as I don't sea any of hose, I no I did nut spell anything wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by HYBR|D
I don't need proof readers or approval.............
I type it correctly to begin with, and have the right to my opinions, just like any other AO member.
And I think that people who run ghey pr0n sites are POS.......particularly as that business venture failed as well :lildevil:
I really don't have any time for people who are legends in their own imagination: JPV, Ankit Fadia, Carol Menier......etc.
IT has moved on, and these people are history now...............a somewhat sordid part of it IMO.
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And you won't be able to do that because it won't recognise your user profile ;)
Actually it wasn't...............certainly not "active" towards the end.........it was just a repository for odds and ends and archived stuff like the obsolete text files (most of which seem to be .zips) and the archived downloads.
This isn't true. A great deal of the "professionals" left when it went to jup media. Secondly, the "reputation" you are citing had always been flagrant - antioffline, etc.Quote:
Actually they turned it into a respectable, professional IT Security and Support site, rather than the skiddiewink site that it had gained a reputation as.
amateur? care to qualify?Quote:
Well they certainly had more expertise that the amateur who sold it for a pittance?
yeah apparently the "skiddiewinks" had garnered a reputation for the capacity for "purchasing power" or "influence" as it was bought for a large sum.Quote:
Unfortunately, skiddiewink sites don't generate advertising revenue as skiddiewinks have no purchasing power or influence. Jupitermedia knew what they were doing.
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No, I am sure that anticode.antionline.com material went quite a bit earlier, as I have said. If you look at the current (discussion forum) domain of the period you will see that those links just aren't there?
well that's another bold unqualified statement. vranesevich did, he just didn't really care.Quote:
JPV's problem was that he had no knowledge of the realities of senior IT management, procurement, development, design or architecture. He broke one of the fundamental rules by purchasing a closed source proprietary product and bastardising its inner workings.
These are also Nihil's opinions, as he says. Granted, his opinions have not only diverged greatly as years have went on, but his personal relationship with JP/Brad etc. was lax and unrelative to this conversation. Albeit he may be correct about some or a lot of what he says, the direct references to JP are largely unreliable.Quote:
If you decide to take this route then you must make sure of one of two things:
1. The modifications are made by the vendor and you have a support contract for YOUR version.
2. You maintain the staff to support the modifications yourself. In which case make sure that you have the source and systems documentation, and keep it up to date.
The preferred approach would be to ringfence the core application and build add-ons, plug-ins, and interfaces; knowing that you would be responsible for systems integration each time the product was upgraded. You could then upgrade the core product, but would need to keep a close eye on the integration issues.
However, JPV and his little elves went their own way :eek:
The net result was that we ended up with a system that couldn't be updated using the vendor's software as it would crash. And the trouble with little elves is that they discover beer, wimmin (or blokes) and purchasing power (or retail therapy) and clear off:D
So, there was no way we could use any updating tools...........we had to do it all by hand.........a very daunting task................
No, that was deliberate...........stuff that didn't work (IP Locator) was just wrong (site statistics), or just did not fit on the front page of a professional site, were removed. Basically, the front page was far too crowded with links that were just irrelevant or obsolete (AO in the news, archived downloads, etc.). As for "Tools & Toys"...............errr............... a link to two poxy DOS games belongs on the front page?:rolleyes:
The main problem or loss from the upgrade was that because the later version used a quite different mapping convention from our bastardised version, we lost internal links to posts/threads, and correct mapping of polls to threads.
I am not entirely sure, but I think that we lost attachments for the same reason. I know the current size limits are smaller but I cannot imagine the system retrospectively deleting them, and I haven't found a single one that is still there.
Just my perspective on things :)
p.s., it's cute really...
4-8 years ago, it used to be "40 members* online, and 100 guests*, now its 1 member online, 60 guests.." - The triumph of IT over the skiddies rules.
of course you have "the right to your opinions" this is the internet, and you happen to mod the site - not exactly a place to where you can't say whatever you want. but thanks for pointing out the obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by nihil
Taking a shot at JP for being gay and running a business(es) in an area of his own interest is lame and weak. In no way does this discredit abilities or reputation outside of gay hate.
Legends in their own imagination? A legend is also a person who impacted their time, not just the future.
Indeed, brilliant, IT has moved on from where it was 10+ years ago.
battleship game.. omg.. i forgot all about that..
hey you sunk my battleship
consider it sunk. how are things down under?