I thought it might be fun to discuss the ways that people were able to get around the blocks in Egypt. If I remember correctly we have an Egyptian member of AO... MostafaXX can you shed any light on the this?
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I thought it might be fun to discuss the ways that people were able to get around the blocks in Egypt. If I remember correctly we have an Egyptian member of AO... MostafaXX can you shed any light on the this?
Dial up and lot's of it. :D
I heard some people were using Ham radio as well. I think this might be a bad sign of things to come. Sure it would be hard to shut down the connectivity that the US has, but they could sure make it difficult for a while.
They'll cut themselves off from the world like Afghanistan and Pakistan did. After the government is overthrown these political groups will turn on each other and it'll become just another barren shithole in the middle east.Quote:
I think this might be a bad sign of things to come.
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Originally Posted by The-Spec
I thought Egypt already was...
yeap...just another shithole propped up by the good ole USofA
Funny how that is.... :eek7:
MLF
As long as they stay cut off from the rest of the world, I don't particularly care. The problem is they start lashing out at the rest of the world, and we're usually at the top of the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by The-Spec
there was still one backboneTgoing into Asia. French did the dial up thing...I think while it was going on the majority of people had accepted the fact that "services" would be cut and went back to old school "meet in the square" roots. The HAM's were all static, and newfags in the U.S. spamed IRC with requests to make a standard freq.. It was all around bumblefux...still ongoing, and interesting to watch.
JP u r the epic faggot isolationist. I'd prefer it to lash out here...I think cooking for a mob would be excellent fun.
Two words: "Suez Canal" ;)
Only if the recipe comes from the "Anarchist's Cookbook" ???Quote:
I think cooking for a mob would be excellent fun.
#1. How is this the fault of the US again? Must have missed that after seeing Obama say the people of Egypt needed to kind of handle this themselves.
#2. It pains me to see and hear how a complete and utter Gem of History like Alexandria has this happening. Yea, I'm one of those geeks who plays Magic: The Gathering, so, "Library of Alexandria" DOES come to mind.
The fact that Alexandria has such a rich History (As does most of that place) and, how people there are having this happen, does bother me. I don't watch the news much, or read it much anymore, because most of the people writing it are either full of ****, or, blowing everything they can totally out of proportion just to make the story seem more intense.
Remember the "Swine Flu" ? The news was covering it like it was the new ****ing AIDS or something, and every time, I looked, and thought "How is this REALLY different from the two or so Flu bugs that go around every year ?" And, after a week or so of people basically panicking, and then *******s on the media putting up Maps of every state a case was reported like it was a death sentence, a week or two later, they were STILL reporting on it; Even AFTER a Doctor in Michigan basically said "Keep your ass at home, drink fluids, rest, eat, it's the Flu, you'll be fine. Don't go outside and make someone else sick, I'm tired of earing about it and seeing it on the News". Finally a Month went by and they shut up.
Anyway, I do Hope, for all of us, and our kids, that this is sorted out.... I want to some day have kids, and take them to Alexandria, and let them see a place like that...
I'm really not totally sure why, but I'm kind of a History nerd. I'm interested by things like that, and places like Alexandria, have a very interesting one, and on top of that, the buildings there are neat looking, and, of course, the whole Magic: The Gathering thing with "Library of Alexandria" is super neat.
It's not that all lands aren't old or have no History, but we're a fairly new country, so, really, Museums here may have stuff from the 1500s, or so, but go to that place, and you can look at stuff a whole lot older.
im a bit of a history nerd myself , and looking throughout everything ive learned its comes down to one simple fact history repeats itself .Quote:
Originally Posted by gore
Well it's nice to know that I'm not the only History nerd here lol.
@romanticcowboy:
Sir, you disappoint me!Quote:
im a bit of a history nerd myself , and looking throughout everything ive learned its comes down to one simple fact history repeats itself .
It was the American philosoper, George Setayana (spelling?) who observed something along the lines of:
"He who does not learn from history, is condemned to repeat the past"
:D
So, it is an opt-in/opt-out situation?
History?..............hmmmm............ I do recall a conversation I had with an air stewardess at London Heathrow...............she did not know that Houston, TX was named after general Samuel Houston...... she had never heard of the battle of the river San Jacinto (1836?) and thought that "The Alamo" was a John Wayne western movie.......
As it happens, Col. William Broughton Travis came from my part of the World....Yorkshire, England:p
One thing I will say in the young lady's favour is that she liked my description of the American Civil War as the "Northern War of Economic Agression" :lildevil:
To pick up on gore's comments:
Yeah! at least 2 or maybe 3 of the 7 wonders of the ancient World come from Egypt...........like they had an empire and civilisation over 5,000 years ago. Iran used to be Persia.............another long and great history :)
Egypt is different:
1 A relative democracy.
2. Relatively secular.
3. The Suez Canal.
Now, would anyone of you Yanks care to explain your interference in the "Suez Crisis" of 1957........ourselves and the Froggies were going to sort it,
but you lot stuck your noses in where not wanted?......a bit like VietNam? but no fighting, so you didn't lose.
BTW................has Obamaprat found his birth certificate yet?.......in THIS democracy, if that were an issue, and he hadn't found it within 28 days he would be doing 30 years............and his party would disband ;)
Have fun :)
Birth certificates? What is this 08'-2009? The pseudo-conservatives who hijacked congress really need to update their smear.
Ah! you mean to say that the documentation has been outstanding THAT long?Quote:
What is this 08'-2009?
:eek::rolleyes::p:D:lildevil:
Maybe you should put the GIB on the case? :halo:
Gosh, I thought that since his mother was an American citizenQuote:
BTW................has Obamaprat found his birth certificate yet?
it wouldn't matter where he was born. I seem to recall
that some were saying similar stuff about Barry Goldwater
back in 1964. A friend told me Goldwater was born before
Arizona became a state. Was he that old? Heck,
George effing Washington was not born in the USA.
Errrrrrr, one of us is missing the point here?.............although I only have UK law to go on..............Quote:
Gosh, I thought that since his mother was an American citizen
it wouldn't matter where he was born.
Without a birth certificate, how do you prove who your mother was? :confused:
I didn't think that place of birth was relevant; only citizenship?
:confused:
This is more idiotic than a ****ing teaparty rally. Let me break it down...
Step one: you raise one hand real firm in the air. Maybe slam it agianst the podium a little.
Step two: scream to the top of your lungs "And he bites his toe nails".
Step three: when they're distracted you take your other hand and pocket everyone's money.
The laws here state that only a US Citizen can run for that Office. Period. That's why Arnold can't be President. He was the Governor of California, and he can do THAT being not born here, but nothing else.
The Tea Party people are ****ing rich idiots. Period. They're REALLY good at getting other idiots who are broke, to vote for Republicans. I am STILL amazed, when I see working class people say they're Republicans.
For a good look that can be biased at times, watch an HBO special called "Right Wing Wronged". It's incredibly funny. I really liked the part where the girl asks a guy "Do you think there are two Americas?" to which the guy replied "There's working class Republicans and Gays"....
I can't understand how stupid these people are. I really can't. I hate Republicans a little more than I hate Democrats but when it comes down to it, at the end of the day, they're both full of **** and both stupid.
One thing I love asking is "Don't you ever ****ing wonder why YOU are voting on the same **** as the Billionaires in this country????"....
I have yet to get a good response to that one. Really, why is it that the working class people in a country would EVER vote on the SAME **** in the SAME way, as the richest 1% of this country?
I remember not long ago I was talking to my cousin who said they hated Obama. I was shocked to hear this considering they have medical bills up the ass, and almost no money. I pointed out that his "Nazi Health Care Bill" was going to help them out, and that their Taxes had been lowered because of him.
They said I'm wrong and that he raised taxes, as that is what they saw on Fox News. I said "Yes, he raised taxes, IF YOU ****ING MAKE MORE THAN $250,000.00 A YEAR OR MORE!"....
I can rarely figure out how it is that people who are almost broke, will Believe that Republicans are looking out for them. Or how Sarah Palin acts like a White Trash moronic Red Neck, yet is a Rich millionaire.
That's a lot like a Rock Star who pretends to be mad and broke when they cash their million dollar pay checks. We call them Sell Outs and have an issue with them making a living yet no one cares that the same **** happens in Politics, and the same people who will claim working class pride, will vote Republican, and then wonder why the economy is in the shitter? Really? Reaganomics wasn't enough?
Let me break this down for the Republicans we probably DO have here:
Republican means that the poor people in the country are taxed MORE, while the Richest ONE Percent of the country, have their taxes LOWERED..... When people find out about this, they claim that "Well, who can offer more jobs? A rich guy or a poor guy? And how can rich people offer jobs if they have more taxes?"....
Really? The same people who spend millions on their homes are going to help the little guy? No.....
Democrats cut taxes on the poor people....The working class idiots who vote against them have their taxes lowered, and the people who can actually ****ing afford it, are taxes more.
Basically; The Democrats make the rich pay their fair share of the tax pool, while the Republicans make white working class people who got straight "Cs" in school pay more.... Idiots.
It's really a shame that you don't have to take some form of test before being allowed to vote. I don't mean an IQ test because then even less people would vote than they do now, but, just a test that asks you simple questions, and votes FOR you based on your answers.
Well, maybe not like that, but maybe a small test that would ask you questions about each candidate, and then, you would be shown what the candidate actually is planning on doing. Kind of like in school, where you take a test, and if you get one wrong, it shows you the right answer, and then if you get it right, it says correct, and then, you can vote.
I bet that would solve some ****.
What we need to do is kill old people. Its always someone with retardation and alzheimers combined at the booths voting for Regean, Nixon, Bush, Bush's kid, and what would have been Frankenstein and Sarah Palin last elections...
Plus with these useless middle age baby boomers dead we won't have to worry about them sucking up money in retirement and benifits... while expecting young kids to work longer for less. Screw 'em.
See, this is why I stood up for you back in the day and got your ass to be allowed back here. Lol. For those not in the US (Like Nihil) everyone in that age group right now, is basically sucking up all the money that would be used for OUR generation, for Retirement, and no one seem to know how to fix it.
I've often thought about removing warning labels on stuff to let it work itself out, but then some jack ass would whine about that too lol.
Meh... I read all those threads in Addicts. And I read everyone's emails and personal messages long before that. I didn't even need other users to forward me stuff on IRC... the scripts on this site where just litterally that vulnerable. teh-heh :D
I want to buy the domain and completely revamp the place.
Hmmmm, I recognise the rhetoric of the German Bier Kellars of the 1920's and 30's.................. I am surprised nobody has mentioned Jews and illegal immigrants yet :rolleyes: History buffs will tell you what happened next.....;)
They are reaping the benefits of wealth that they helped to generate, and have earned. In this World you have to earn it and generate it first.Quote:
everyone in that age group right now, is basically sucking up all the money that would be used for OUR generation, for Retirement, and no one seem to know how to fix it.
If you do not encourage savings, retirement provisions and inheritance, then people will just spend all their disposable income (or move it offshore more likely) and you will find yourself living in a South American banana republic before you know it.
That is rather like the people who argue that we should not spend so much on defence, but should build schools and hospitals instead. It isn't a perceived alternative, and isn't going to happen, so forget it.Quote:
that would be used for OUR generation
Anyways, just how would money (from any source) be spent on the current generation?................are they uneducated? (nope), are they incapable of work? (nope), are they unwilling to work? (nope)...............the problem is that there just isn't the work.........or at least that is true over here (UK).
If you want to see the real problem just walk down the high street and check out small consumer items............how many say made in the USA as opposed to nothing, or made in China?
101 Macro Economics:
1. The Rich have zero effect on the economy. They spend much the same anyways.
2. The lower down the income chain you go, the greater the effect you have on the economy, as people will spend all their additional disposable income, or cut back when it is reduced. You begin with essentials such as food and clothes, and then work up to things like college educations and luxuries. The other way round when income is reduced.
3. By encouraging additional spending you stimulate the economy by a factor known as the "multiplier effect". It's a bit of a bummer if most of the stuff being bought is made in China...................
4. Nobody believes that the Rich employ people, or would employ more or less with the minor differences that taxation makes. Most people are employed in:
Commerce, Finance, Industry, Institutions, Government.
And I would guess that most Rich and certainly wealthy people prefer to engage outside services, as this gets rid of all the hassle of employing your own staff.
That is how things work, or certainly have since WWII, if not before.
As for public health schemes............yeah you can bang on about those all you like because it won't happen.
I would suggest that it would take an absolute landslide majority; or better still a coalition government to bring it about.............. I think that the private healthcare lobby is just far to strong?
Maybe you should just bring back the Draft for the unemployed? :D:eek:
You are living in the 1930s, or have an older relative from thatQuote:
The Tea Party people are ****ing rich idiots. Period. They're REALLY good at getting other idiots who are broke, to vote for Republicans.
era who has taught you "all he knew" about politics. Today the fact is
that when polls are taken about which demographic supports which
party, the people with bachelor's degrees and higher are all Democrats.
One way to spin that is to boast that the "smarter" people are all
liberals and Democrats. A less charitable interpretation is that
all the privileged people are Democrats, and in my understanding,
they vote to protect their power and privilege. That used to be
the definition of the right wing in politics.
About as silly and irrelivant as watching blacks show off how "GAAAAAAYngster" they are by shouting the fallowing:
Im ah' blood!
Oh yeah? Well im a crip nigga!
lol -- http://www.macdoctor.co.nz/2009/08/20/on-trolls/
Old, but evidently still very relevant.
Nope.Quote:
You are living in the 1930s, or have an older relative from that
era who has taught you "all he knew" about politics.
Telling me that, more or less makes me think you're saying basically "Republicans aren't exactly College types" which is pretty easy for anyone to understand really.Quote:
Today the fact is that when polls are taken about which demographic supports which
party, the people with bachelor's degrees and higher are all Democrats.
That's kind of what I said man.Quote:
One way to spin that is to boast that the "smarter" people are all
liberals and Democrats.
Ummmmmm, I think you're confusing Republican / Conservative, with Liberal / Democrat. Everything from MAD Magazine to HBO specials shows what I was talking about in my post.Quote:
A less charitable interpretation is that
all the privileged people are Democrats, and in my understanding,
they vote to protect their power and privilege. That used to be
the definition of the right wing in politics.
I did go out of my way to talk about an HBO Documentary called "Right Wing Wronged" where it shows the **** I was talking about.
As for someone related telling me about Politics.... I'm the only Libertarian in my Family.
Bah... no political party will work intil you make earmarks completely illegal. Infact money should be deducted directly from a senator's paycheck each time they propose bills just in case. And should a company legitimately need something then they should be forced to subsidise for it.
And any President who's been Impeached, the laws, and Agencies they invented or made, should be discarded. That would be nice. And while we're on it; Why don't we vote in Police? You can vote for the Sheriff but no the rest? They should have police who work for a particular city be voted in; That should take care of Police Brutality.
Hah! so now it's Libya..............us Brits should have insisted that you used nukes the last time you flew F-111s out of our country............:lildevil::xbones: