Open-source is not the future!
The open-source community has announced for quite a few years now that they will hit the mainstream. I think not.
I don't wanna be an ass, so I'll say some positive things about open-source: It's free, and many times you can get wonderful software, sometimes better than that you pay for. It's customizable, if you're a programming wizard you can make changes the way you like them. And the wizards are nice people, if you ask them kindly, maybe they'll create that driver you couldn't find on the net.
So what's the problem? To create good software, being a good programmer isn't enough. Open-source is software created by hackers for hackers. It's difficult to get it up and running. The user-interface is often so difficult, the mainstream won't understand. There's no place you can call if something goes wrong, except maybe post questions on AntiOnline. (Lotsa clever guys there ;))
What I'm saying is if you're gonna make software you'll need an organization behind you. Someone to interact with the users, to find out what the user's need (cuz developers DON'T KNOW). You're gonna need people who investigate the application's usability, so that users are able to actually use the application (cuz developers DON'T KNOW **** about usability). And you're gonna need somone who can help users after the software is released.
Most people don't work for fame and glory, they want cold cash. The organization isn't gonna come to life without a decent cash-flow.
Sorry people; money talks open-source walks.
Open source is the future
" The open-source community has announced for quite a few years now that they will hit the mainstream. I think not. "
I disagree. Many business and large corporations are looking for an alternative to windows OS, web server, and database. Linux is not intenden for the "mainstream" people that just use their computer to look at porn and read their emails. Linux was created with intelligent individuals in mind, not "mainstream" people and your every day user.
"...projects like MySQL are supported by both the programmers that create it and other various companies. "
Ah, SQL. What a wonderful language. Oracle is Microsoft's
arch-rival in competing with who has the better structured query language database.
"So what's the problem? To create good software, being a good programmer isn't enough. "
Why isn't it? If a truely good programer designed the OS or DB or whatever to near perfection (everything has its flaws) then there would be no need for technical support and people bothering them with annoying questions. Why dose my [inster OS,DB,or what not] work when i try to [insert function here]?
"Open-source is software created by hackers for hackers" I would like to add something to that statement. Open source was created for "security minded and (semi) intelligent individuals"
.."you're gonna need somone who can help users after the software is released. "
Back to my previous statement:
If a truely good programer designed the OS or DB or whatever to near perfection (everything has its flaws) then there would be no need for technical support.
"Most people don't work for fame and glory, they want cash. The organization isn't gonna come to life without a decent cash-flow.
Sorry people; money talks open-source walks."
And I don't see a threat there. what's wrong with working towards an honest buck? Also, open-source must have some sort of cash flow, although i'm not sure from where/who. You seem to have ended your quote incorrectly. It goes as follows:
"Money talks and BULLSHIT walks"
I don't wanna be an ass, so I'll say some positive things about windows...
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Re: Open-source is not the future!
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Originally posted by proactive
The open-source community has announced for quite a few years now that they will hit the mainstream. I think not.
I don't wanna be an ass, so I'll say some positive things about open-source: It's free, and many times you can get wonderful software, sometimes better than that you pay for. It's customizable, if you're a programming wizard you can make changes the way you like them. And the wizards are nice people, if you ask them kindly, maybe they'll create that driver you couldn't find on the net.
So what's the problem? To create good software, being a good programmer isn't enough. Open-source is software created by hackers for hackers. It's difficult to get it up and running. The user-interface is often so difficult, the mainstream won't understand. There's no place you can call if something goes wrong, except maybe post questions on AntiOnline. (Lotsa clever guys there ;))
What I'm saying is if you're gonna make software you'll need an organization behind you. Someone to interact with the users, to find out what the user's need (cuz developers DON'T KNOW). You're gonna need people who investigate the application's usability, so that users are able to actually use the application (cuz developers DON'T KNOW **** about usability). And you're gonna need somone who can help users after the software is released.
Most people don't work for fame and glory, they want cold cash. The organization isn't gonna come to life without a decent cash-flow.
Sorry people; money talks open-source walks.
It sounds to me that u just tried linux and couldn't figure it out and therefor u direct ur anger at opensource... bad choice....
Linux with it's graphical interface is very easy to use! But probably think it's pretty difficult, which many does... and why? Well because u've been using windoze all ur lives and have forgotton how hard it actually was to learn when u started playin' around with 'puters. Now that u know how windoze works it easy, it's the same with linux!
It's so typical... just because ppl can't figure linux out the first time they try it they think it isn't userfriendly.... well that's because it isn't windoze! it's something else, it's like u've learned to speak german when u were small and know u need to learn french (this might be a bad example since frenche probably is harder to learn then linux :) ).... u have to educate urself! u can do everything from X-windows in linux, u don't even have to know how to open a term window to use linux.... that's history, of course many hacker prefer to use linux without the graphical interface (I for one), but that's just because we know howto do it! and it's faster! but it's necessary any longer, and the typical PC user that sits at work writing reports doesn't need to learn how to install linux (which actually is the only part that sometimes can be tricky)...
Well i could continue to write about this and opensource all night, but i wont.... but remember nothing is easy at first, it takes time to learn how linux works, but it doesn't take longer than to learn windoze ('cause MS don't give a **** about u! they just want their bloody money!).
Re: Re: Open-source is not the future!
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Originally posted by zion1459
It sounds to me that u just tried linux and couldn't figure it out and therefor u direct ur anger at opensource... bad choice....
Actually I have used Linux for programming, but I've stopped using it cuz it don't fit my needs (I have to use MS programming tools in my work). But I will use it again whenever I think it's the right platform.....
And I agree with you that everything needs practice. My point is that the easier solution is always better (and at this point MS have the better products for novice users). And they will continue to have.
I'll back my words with this quote from Danish usability guru, Jacob Nielsen (Take from The Register):
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On Linux desktops...
Will Linux desktops innovate? No. I don't think of that as being the solution: because it's open source.
It doesn't lend itself to coming up with new paradigms. The one thing it's very good thing at is designing software for other hackers, for other nerds, really.
That's their skill and that's their strength - there's a thousand nerds to look at it. If something doesn't work it's going to be a debate on the mailing lists and it's going to be fixed.
But that's a bad method for complex decision management or business professionals or this next generation of home users, because that requires a very different project management approach, a clear vision.
They're great programmers and that's very nice, and it generates good stuff for that environment, but it's a little sandbox.
For example they're so proud once they've ported [sic] PowerPoint. But that doesn't give us a new way of doing presentations.
To do that you 've got to follow business people around all day and study them and ask them what they need.
And by the way, Jacob Nielsen has a very interesting homepage at UseIt.com. He's specialized on web usability.