Ok many people use Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 compiler. Is using the MFC to create application Programs cheating. I've learned the hard way of creating all files by hand which is usually the most effiecient way to create a program, but very time consuming. Is this really programming or just another way to get peoples intrest. Seriously Microsoft was some many things that suck, what would be next building a compiler that reads english,lol. That would live up to Microsoft and security,lol..