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  1. #21
    Just an update:

    From my limited finds, I haven't found too much legislation or anything else encouraging or aiding law enforcement agencies to take proactive measures(I'm sure they are out there somewhere)

    Found the normal Child Privacy Acts and such.

    Did find this though: http://www.fbi.gov/publications/pguide/pguidee.htm

    A basic parent FAQ if you will on becoming an active part in your childs internet life(although I'm sure that all of us are educated enough to know what to do and what to look for)

    It was a good read none the less, and should be something that is presented to every parent, perhaps through some sort of school function(perhaps through Parent-teacher conferences)

    Anyway, thats all I got for now
    Tachyon

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  2. #22
    Originally posted here by Tachyon
    Just an update:

    From my limited finds, I haven't found too much legislation or anything else encouraging or aiding law enforcement agencies to take proactive measures(I'm sure they are out there somewhere)

    Found the normal Child Privacy Acts and such.

    Did find this though: http://www.fbi.gov/publications/pguide/pguidee.htm

    A basic parent FAQ if you will on becoming an active part in your childs internet life(although I'm sure that all of us are educated enough to know what to do and what to look for)

    It was a good read none the less, and should be something that is presented to every parent, perhaps through some sort of school function(perhaps through Parent-teacher conferences)

    Anyway, thats all I got for now
    Thank you for the update. I found and was going though this yesterday. A pretty nice site.

  3. #23
    I've got a story for you:

    I found this story several years ago on a website that her family had built just for this purpose. It involves a New Jersey Internet Pedophile case. Sadly I have lost track of the URL to this site. It is a GREAT example of what can happen when parents and kids are security aware.

    As I can recall, her name was Courtney. Courtney was 11 years old at the time this incident occured. She was very active in IRC chat and had always been toght by her parents of the possible dangers. Her and her sibling had always been instructed to trace down (using the standard IRC commands) any suspicipous people they might come into contact with...one day, a scumbag on IRC sends her kiddie porn via DCC. After notifiing her Mom, Courtney then traces this scum's IP down to a state of Maryland goverment address. The scumbag was a State employee. They both keep this scum online while the State of Maryland gets called from the WHOIS data. Eventually, this results in contact with a detective, who I'm sure was quite horrified that this was a State employee using State of Maryland equimpment. New jursey Police are contacted who then collected the kiddie porn that was saved on a floppy (which BTW was done under the direction and supervision of the NJ State Police, DON'T try this at home). This scum is now behind bars thanks to the work of this security aware family

    P.S. If anbybody wants to try and find the URL for this site, try using Old Reliable with "Courtney's Story"

  4. #24
    WE HAVE JUST HAD ANOTHER CASE UP HERE WITH ANOTHER WACKO:

    http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp...9&nav=0Rde9ALS If they don't find out this pedo was after kids online I'll faint. IS THE EVER GONNA END????

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    "The problem today is that kids know more about computers then their parents do, parents need to be able to monitor what the kids do and what sites they visit but it's virtually impossible, unless if you have JP as your dad or something. "

    I have to agree with this completely!! I am a mother two two young children who use the internet daily. I believe it is up to me to not only educate them about security and safety (online or offline) but to also educate myself about the things my children are into. I watch movies and even play video games before I hand them over to my kids. My children are fortunate (or unfortunate depending on your view) that their mom is a techie. Most parents are afraid of computers and don't understand how they work. They either choose to stay ignorant and hope their kids are safe or they disallow usage completely. Either of those options leaves children at risk.
    I'd like to see communities offer Internet Security classes for kids and parents. There will always be predators out there in the world and we just need to become educated on the ways they use to get their victims.
    What I'd hate to see happen here is parents just disallowing their children access to the internet. There is alot of benefit to what the internet has to offer, it simply needs to be supervised like any other activity we let our children participate in.

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    This may sound completely insane.....but hear me out.

    Obviously, there is a huge problem, and solutions are short....maybe i'm a dreamer but why can't we do something? We as a group *people who care about security - and obviously not just computer security, judging by the posts above* COULD do something.

    Why can't we approach the companies that are sending out prepackaged computers for mass consumption (Dell, Gateway....) with a little book specifically for parents? I sincerely believe that the parents who are buying computers for their children, have their children's best interests in mind *education, etc*, but how many of them are TRULY aware of what is going on?

    I know there is tons of information on the internet about protecting children from online preditors, but maybe some of these parents don't use the internet on a regular basis....or maybe they are completly oblivious.......??

    I've heard it a million times.....kid gets computer for christmas....computer goes in child's room...with minimal supervision....

    Why couldn't a little security book be included with these computers? Included with the user manual...something that WOULD get the attention of parents.

    Like i said, it may sound out of reach, and i may get flamed for this idea, but it may save even one life, and that is worth it imho.


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    I think it is very sad that things like this should happen.. it also gives chatroom's bad names because of pedofiles and ppl willing to abuse the weak and younger. Very sad....

  8. #28
    Originally posted here by firefemme
    This may sound completely insane.....but hear me out.

    Obviously, there is a huge problem, and solutions are short....maybe i'm a dreamer but why can't we do something? We as a group *people who care about security - and obviously not just computer security, judging by the posts above* COULD do something.

    Why can't we approach the companies that are sending out prepackaged computers for mass consumption (Dell, Gateway....) with a little book specifically for parents? I sincerely believe that the parents who are buying computers for their children, have their children's best interests in mind *education, etc*, but how many of them are TRULY aware of what is going on?

    I know there is tons of information on the internet about protecting children from online preditors, but maybe some of these parents don't use the internet on a regular basis....or maybe they are completly oblivious.......??

    I've heard it a million times.....kid gets computer for christmas....computer goes in child's room...with minimal supervision....

    Why couldn't a little security book be included with these computers? Included with the user manual...something that WOULD get the attention of parents.

    Like i said, it may sound out of reach, and i may get flamed for this idea, but it may save even one life, and that is worth it imho.

    Dosen't sound insane to me at all. In fact it sounds like a good idea

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    Why can't we approach the companies that are sending out prepackaged computers for mass consumption (Dell, Gateway....) with a little book specifically for parents? I sincerely believe that the parents who are buying computers for their children, have their children's best interests in mind *education, etc*, but how many of them are TRULY aware of what is going on?
    Have to agree w/Ratman on this one. Nothing too insane sounding about that idea. As a matter of fact, maybe its time PC manufacturers got some pressure to do just that.

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    I think they shoulda did that the moment they began making these computers and should alert parents on the big dangers of the internet in a little handbook.

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