Knowledge

[zion1459]

/me jumps to the first page and has a look

" Hacking is the art of using your knowledge to gain more knowledge "

ahh... right... yup... think this thread has gone far enough... lmao

[Morrissey]

and who amongst you who do not break the law of nature. Face it!

May the god of wisdom shares with you his wit.!!!!

[ph1y]

<rant>NOTE: 5% of all hackers are caught.

By hackers, I mean the ones who write software, for the fun of it. I mean the ones who slip into computers, and let the admins know how they got in, and how to fix it. We (ethical hackers) do it both for the thrill, and because we believe that it's the right thing to do. Without ethical hackers, many admins wouldn't know about their security holes, and eventually a more malicious entity would find the hole, exploit it, and trash the system. What would you prefer? Being hacked by ethical hackers? Or script kiddies? Ethical hackers want to learn the most they can about computers in a whole lifetime. Criminal hackers* deserve to be caught and jailed. Honestly, if someone asks how to "hax0r h0tmai1", I'll tell them to go away and learn something useful. I know that there are many sysadmins who read AO. Well, if you're one of those sysadmins, keep in mind, you *will* be hacked. It just depends *who* hacks you.</rant>

Keep the flame-o-meter low.

-phly

*Criminal hacker -- "But all hackers are criminals!" you say. Well, that definition was created by the government. IMHO, criminal hackers are the ones who trash systems for the fun of it. Hackers are the good guys.

[Valor]

You've all posted valid points, even if this has gone too far.

But, getting back to the point of which this post was started for, I believe that is a very good quote for this generation and those to come.

Hacking is the art of using your knowledge to gain more knowledge

If people understood that, then the media wouldn't be able to give hackers such a bad name. It's applicable in all ways of life, albeit possibly moreso in the computer scene. Everyone just needs to understand that.

[huntx7]

The police or FBI would never arrest someone who breaks into a system doesn't do anything but clear his trace and patch the hole, and tell the company. He did his good deed for the day. But one who breaks into a computer network, steals credit card information, steals important data, destroys it, and does other things, those are the people who white hats stop, and those are the people who go to jail.
BTW: You can hack into a system and not break the law, war game .

[Bug_Master]

I think that n01 have the rigth to invade other person privacy. But there are some aspects that are in the boundaries of the law for me, like defacing websites with child porn contents and related.
For security purposes should a sys/hacker try to break in in his/her own network/server and seek for bugs before someone does? Definitively, YES!!!
And if this is the purpose of using your knowledge to gain more knowledge, i think that's fair enougth for me.


But this is just my humble opinion.

Fight child porn!!!

[Morrissey]

Ey! lemme ask some questions. How do FBI, IT secured companies etc... defend their systems when they would not know how they were attacked. The point is, we all know that the internet is vulnerable to hack, considering that hackers and crackers could be your enemy. damn one has just got to know his enemy and his enemies tactics so one could defend oneself. Hacking, for me, is not always as it was believed to many a destruction. then what is it? I lost my password on the VB made Enrollment system that i am a part of making it. Though, i made the security **** system, instead i used MS Access's .chw to protect user's passwords. i eventually paniqued when i could not log in as the "admin". So i need to hack my own system to get trough it. So i am a tresspasser to my own land. But f dont do that, i'll crash and the system too.
This is an instance where hacking is not destruction. Think about it.
Think of Anti viruses.... How could they be prevented /when you do not you where it attacks you and how..... man come to think....

anyway these are my opinions....

may the [shadow]gods[/shadow] and [blur]goddesses[/blur] be with you.

[l3aDmOnKeY]

I do not support cracking. But yes hacking is the use of knowelge to gain more knowelge. I guess to back it up you could say: If you steal a book from barnes and nobles you use knowelge to steal it in order to gain more knowelge.

[8*B@LL]

...stealing takes no knoledge...all it takes is the ability to put a book in a bag or drop it down your pants or something then walk out the door. no knoledge there.

[gold eagle]

use your knowledge for good and thus avoid the legal issues.