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June 7th, 2003, 11:07 PM
#1
Muslium Sues for Veil On Licence
Hey all--
Well, well, if it's not one stupid thing after another on the headlines, I've hit one that I couldn't believe. Check the link and read the article, see what you think...
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/5-28-2003-40921.asp
I think that this is a matter of security for America, and that her attempt to pull the rug up from under us, hiding behind her religious beliefs is utterly ridiculous.
This is a measure of policy, law, and security! In my opinion, I think that this excuse should have been thrown out a long time ago. Identification is based on the facial features that you possess. Furthermore, when an officer pulls you over and says. "May I see you licence and registration?" You're damn right I want him to recognise and be able to distinguish between the two. The people that come here to America should be aware of the consequences of doing so and be prepared for security measures that they may not feel ethical. It is the LAW therefore it must be OBEYED right? I'm in no way trying to attack people of different ethnic backround, culture, or race, I am simply saying she should be required to follow the regulations that all citizens must follow and not doing so is an attack on American security standards.
And for all you liberals, and self-acclaimed politcally correct people who disagree with me still get this....
"The same set of rules that states that the article is not to be removed, also states that women are NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE!"
--Quote taken from Michael Savage, of the Savage Nation.
That was on a TV show of his I was watching on the subject, but if you don't believe me, look it up for yourself...
So what are your thoughts? I'm interested so let me know...
--Peace
The real question is not whether peace can be obtained, but whether or not mankind is mature enough for it...
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June 8th, 2003, 12:02 AM
#2
Yeah, it would put the U.S in serious danger if we allowed people to do such. If she gets to do it, everyone will want to do it, it's just bad policy. Besides their own religion teaches that it is ok at certain times to lift the veil if it's for helpful purposes/good reason(i'm paraphrasing) so don't quote me.
As much as i respect her belief's, i think it's simple bad policy.
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June 8th, 2003, 01:14 AM
#3
this conversation has allready been started http://www.antionline.com/showthread...hreadid=244293 but i will go ahead and make my opion known. I think its a crock of ****. The whole point of the drivers licennse is for identification. how can you identify sopmebody with a veil on. she doesnt want to follow the law of the land she can leave
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June 8th, 2003, 01:32 AM
#4
Yea, I realized that when I clicked back, after thinking I made a through enough assesment to see if this topic was posted. I was wrong, I apologize, however when I go to delete the thread my browser comes up with an error so I have reported it instead. Thanks for the input tho...
The real question is not whether peace can be obtained, but whether or not mankind is mature enough for it...
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June 8th, 2003, 02:49 AM
#5
Yeah, the server is busy at the moment, i'm having the same problem over in the humor forum. It's always around 8:00 that it happens for me. Must be AO's version of prime time.
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June 11th, 2003, 11:47 PM
#6
I agree with I guess everybody here. She needs to have her veil off during her picture for her license. She also needs to take it off when police pull her over so they can correctly identify her.
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June 12th, 2003, 01:44 AM
#7
Actually, the case has already been decided. . . and she lost. .. the judge sited that a driver's license was a priveledge, not a right, therefore she had to follow the rules in getting one.
I would normally drop some linkage here, but I couldn't find the story online anymore.
Because I am a woman, I must make unusual efforts to succeed. If I fail, no one will say, "She doesn't have what it takes"; They will say, "Women don't have what it takes".
Clare Boothe Luce
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June 14th, 2003, 07:20 AM
#8
This is an old thread but I'm gonna throw my two cents in also... I think she should have to take the veil off. If Muslims were allowed to wear veils when they take their ID picture, how are they supposed to be identified? It's stupid. Suppose a crime was commited and the only discription an eye witness or a security camera could give would be a 5'6'' woman wearing a black veil. Hrmmm.... how many people would fit that profile?
Remote_Access_
“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.” - Martin Luther King, Jr.
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June 16th, 2003, 02:31 AM
#9
The funny thing about this is that all Muslim countries require women to take off their vails in order to take photos for I.D.s and drivers liceances. But that lady who made such a big deal about this wouldn't know that since she was born here and became Muslim later on in life.
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June 16th, 2003, 07:20 AM
#10
You know, I'm just really sick and tired of all these different groups wanting preferential treatment just because they or their beliefs don't fit into the mainstream. This is AMERICA. We speak ENGLISH here...be prepared to learn it or don't come. We have Laws that govern EVERYONE....don't think that because of your religious or ethnic background, your sexual orientation or whatever that you deserve to be treated differently from the rest of us. The Constitution clearly states that all men (and women IMO) are created EQUAL....no one person or group is better or worse than another and none are deserving of special treatment.
Quoth the Don Henley of "The Eagles"....
"GET OVER IT!"
Al
It isn't paranoia when you KNOW they're out to get you...
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