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July 27th, 2003, 05:45 PM
#1
Senior Member
Keywords Used On Phone
This Question is mostly for phreakers then hackers. Have you ever saw the movie Enemy Of The State. Well in that movie The NSA has a system that automatically taps a persons phone when certain keywords are used. For example ...nucluer bomb..president...terrorist..attack planned.
I was wondering does the NSA or the government really have the tech. to do things like this.And if you don't know about the Patriotic Act which was passed right after 9/11 you might want to look into that too.
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July 27th, 2003, 05:52 PM
#2
Senior Member
if you are interested in such systems visit this website. quite a lot information about spying systems....
http://archive.aclu.org/echelonwatch/networks.html
hmm, reading through this can make you schizophrenic...
\"Knowledge is the Real Power\"
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July 27th, 2003, 06:01 PM
#3
Senior Member
if you are interested in such systems visit this website. quite a lot information about spying systems....
I am not really interested in the systems. I was just seeing if anyone is aware of tech like this. Also I think it's an invasion of privacy.
Cheers
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July 27th, 2003, 06:04 PM
#4
yea this system called echelon its a very very clever system
heres a link i found on google
http://www.heise.de/tp/english/inhalt/te/6929/1.html
do you remember in the news a while back during the afganistan thing that they located a senior member Al-Quader, by intercepting his mobile phone call, then they matched the voice against a know voice print of his and then located once they knew it was him by triangulating the signal, clever stuff
so yes they do have the technology and it is implemented,
i2c
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July 27th, 2003, 06:06 PM
#5
Member
I'm not exactly sure it's possible to tap into someone's phone when they say a keyword, but it is possible to hack into someone's cellphone...
BD]Hobbit
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July 27th, 2003, 07:04 PM
#6
I'm sure the technology exists to detect keywords in phone calls, however I find it unlikely that they can afford to put it on every phone line in the world, much less hire all the people they'd need to listen to the phone calls to filter out the false positives.
I can't see how their technology can do much better of detecting the words "Nuclear bomb" on the phone
Plus also, radio triangulation has nothing to do with keyword listening, it's a much more basic technique and has been used for at least 60 years.
I think they would have found Bin Laden much better from his satellite phone if they hadn't announced to the world's media that that's what they were doing.
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July 27th, 2003, 07:20 PM
#7
I heard about them doing this with email as well
so what would happen if you set up like a hundred free email accounts with email fwdin' set up so something like
account1 -> account2 -> account3 (etc etc etc) account100 -> account1
so that when you send an email into the loop it automatically keeps fwdin' itself thro the loop continuosly & wrote something in the email that would trigger the tracking system
would it pick it up and flag it every time?
v_Ln
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July 27th, 2003, 07:50 PM
#8
By: slarty
however I find it unlikely that they can afford to put it on every phone line in the world
What if part of your phone line had this system already implemented (how do you know the government wasn't trying to tap phones the second day Bell showed them to the world?). So regardless, every phone line you buy will be capable for tapping... spooky, ain't it?
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July 27th, 2003, 08:30 PM
#9
Senior Member
This was on the website that i2c gave.
Echelon is a system used by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) to intercept and process international communications passing via communications satellites. It is one part of a global surveillance systems that is now over 50 years old. Other parts of the same system intercept messages from the Internet, from undersea cables, from radio transmissions, from secret equipment installed inside embassies, or use orbiting satellites to monitor signals anywhere on the earth's surface. The system includes stations run by Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, in addition to those operated by the United States. Although some Australian and British stations do the same job as America's Echelon sites, they are not necessarily called "Echelon" stations. But they all form part of the same integrated global network using the same equipment and methods to extract information and intelligence illicitly from millions of messages every day, all over the world.
Now thats frekin freaky.....
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July 27th, 2003, 08:46 PM
#10
Originally posted here by valhallen
I heard about them doing this with email as well
The other thing to do is place a load of 'keywords' as additional X-headers in every email you send.
If the 'powers that be' want to spend their time and resources reading every tiny bit of drivel I email, then good luck to them.
Don't fight the system with encryption, because that's just a technology race which at some time in the future (often sooner than thought) your mail's readable. If it's encrypted then it must be worth reading, right.
Hide it in plain sight. Remember the best place to hide a pebble is on a beach with shed loads of other pebbles, not in a large and very well locked chest sitting on the beach.
Steve
IT, e-commerce, Retail, Programme & Project Management, EPoS, Supply Chain and Logistic Services. Yorkshire. http://www.bigi.uk.com
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