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October 23rd, 2003, 06:18 PM
#1
Who thinks Bush (jr.) is a good president?
For all those who said the current power is all that matters, heres the new poll.
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October 23rd, 2003, 06:27 PM
#2
Senior Member
I think Bush is doing a great job. He is cutting taxes, he is following through with the war on terror, and he is doing a good job with national security. He should certainly get a second term.
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October 23rd, 2003, 06:29 PM
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Bush is doing great but should speed the terrorism process
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October 23rd, 2003, 06:55 PM
#4
ClintonisaGayWad: If you had done any research you would of known that Clinton did a lot of things to stop terrorism. Bush F'd it up before September 11th by ignoring Clinton's advisors that had been warning him and his advisors about an impending attack on the USA by terrorists.
And about Bush Jr: He has lied to the American public, cheated in polls, gave huge tax cuts to the top 1% of Americans, so I would like to hear why you think he is a good or great president.
Also, no offence, but your poll is so biased to your opinion that it makes Bush look liberal in comparison.
N00b> STFU i r teh 1337 (english: You must be mistaken, good sir or madam. I believe myself to be quite a good player. On an unrelated matter, I also apparently enjoy math.)
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October 23rd, 2003, 08:19 PM
#5
Originally posted here by CXGJarrod
ClintonisaGayWad: If you had done any research you would of known that Clinton did a lot of things to stop terrorism. Bush F'd it up before September 11th by ignoring Clinton's advisors that had been warning him and his advisors about an impending attack on the USA by terrorists.
And about Bush Jr: He has lied to the American public, cheated in polls, gave huge tax cuts to the top 1% of Americans, so I would like to hear why you think he is a good or great president.
Also, no offence, but your poll is so biased to your opinion that it makes Bush look liberal in comparison.
Sorry man, but I must disagree with those statements about Clinton. He had numerous opportunities to have Osama's head handed to him, one of them by the Sudanese government. What thanks did the Sudanese get? Cruise missles into one of their medicine factories...lovely...
What did Clinton do to Al Queda after the first trade center bombing?
What about after the Kobar Towers ?
What about the USS Cole?
What about after the second bombing in Saudi?
What about after the embassies in Africa?
What about after getting their ass handed to them in Somalia?
Yep, what a stalwart fighter of terrorism...I am sure he nearly killed Osama by making him laugh too hard.
As far as the poll goes, that is some bogus crap. If you want to have a poll, give real options and not this contrived stuff that attempts to mold opinions in one direction or another.
And before you go thinking I am a big Bush Jr. supporter think again. Yes, I supported him when he sent troops to Afghanistan, long overdue IMHO. I didn't really feel like it was the right time to invade Iraq, but didn't feel strongly enough about it to get too upset; however, I look at the Justice Department run by Ashcroft and I want to puke. I see government power expandingly rapidly, I see people blindly giving up their freedoms for the promise of security (brings to mind a quote from one of our founding fathers about people giving up their freedom for security will have neither). I see the Bush administration arrogantly ignoring public request for information about what they are up to (be it negotiations for energy policy, Iraq, reconstruction, etc). I am also irritated that obviously there was no serious effort to plan for the reconstruction of Iraq and a prompt withdrawal of troops. Now the US taxpayer is saddled with a massive debt and soldiers die daily. I see this country rapidly turning into a nanny style, government knows best police state, and apparently not enough are paying attention to do anything about it...
Couple this country going to a police state with Bush apparently never meeting a dollar he doesn't want to spend, and he has lost my vote and has precious little time to earn it back.
/nebulus
There is only one constant, one universal, it is the only real truth: causality. Action. Reaction. Cause and effect...There is no escape from it, we are forever slaves to it. Our only hope, our only peace is to understand it, to understand the 'why'. 'Why' is what separates us from them, you from me. 'Why' is the only real social power, without it you are powerless.
(Merovingian - Matrix Reloaded)
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October 23rd, 2003, 08:27 PM
#6
He had numerous opportunities to have Osama's head handed to him, one of them by the Sudanese government.
You beat me to it man.
I think Bush is a terrific President!
God forbid the American people trade him in for another President like Clinton just like they did his daddy! Sad really.
At least Bush has a enough guts to fight for our ****ing freedom and safety. Damn liberal pansies.
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October 23rd, 2003, 09:11 PM
#7
Hi,
Just a few thoughts from a European. What we know about US politics is probably highly limited and coloured by our media coverage. That is probably even more distorted by our politicians, and their "spin doctors" (professional liars, to the uninitiated).
I find it difficult to make valid comparisons between administrations, given that they have generally operated in different circumstances? You can quite easily judge the current administration against its election promises...............but you did that with the last one, and they are no longer there ( and can anyone name me any administration that kept its word apart from Joe Stalin in Russia?) My point is that a lot of things have changed very rapidly in the last three US Administrations? .........opening up of the former Iron Curtain, China, nuclear proliferation. 9/11?
I strongly suspect that the average European sees no real difference between Mr Bush and Mr Clinton?. There has been improved co-operation on cybercrimes like child pornography, drug trafficking, etc., but that I put down to improved technology, rather than any political initiative.
The military technology with which we went into the second Gulf War was far superior to the first...............we actually could do it without the bodybags? The circumstances had changed.
I have a message for "clintonsucks"
A sentence in the English language requires a subject, an object, and a verb. The subject "does the verb" to the object. I, out of due respect to the American legal process, am prepared to accept the testimony of Monica Lewinsky
Take care, and God Bless
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October 23rd, 2003, 09:41 PM
#8
Lets see bush has faild to get binladen, faild to get husain and has told the terrorists of the world that you can hit america with no major repocusions...ya he did a great job.
Who is more trustworthy then all of the gurus or Buddha’s?
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October 23rd, 2003, 11:55 PM
#9
Im sure if the 1500 Iraqi and 3800 Afghanistani civilians who died during US invasions were alive today, they would disagree with you clintonsucks...
SoggyBottom.
[glowpurple]There were so many fewer questions when the stars where still just the holes to heaven - JJ[/glowpurple] [gloworange]I sure could use a vacation from this bull$hit, three ringed circus side show of freaks. - Tool. [/gloworange]
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October 24th, 2003, 04:45 PM
#10
nebulus200: I will try to get links for you tonight, (as my notes are at home) but the Clinton administration had everything set up for the BUsh administration to kick more @ss on terrorism. Bush and his advisors thought that the Clinton administration was too paranoid about terrorism and the "impending attack on US interests." Bush had a request for more money for antiterrorism efforts on his desk on September 10th (which he denied this request). All I am trying to say is that Bush, (Pre-September 11th) did jack **** to fight terrorism. And now that he is finally "fighting terrorism" by invading countries, he lies to the American public about the reasons for going into Iraq.
This in my opinion, does not make a good or great president.
N00b> STFU i r teh 1337 (english: You must be mistaken, good sir or madam. I believe myself to be quite a good player. On an unrelated matter, I also apparently enjoy math.)
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