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January 23rd, 2004, 07:44 PM
#21
Originally posted here by tonybradley
For non-smoking, I like the Truth.com ads. I think Phillip Morris should just have to fund and bankroll Truth.com rather than being allowed to come up with their own ads.
hmmm.... http://www.truth.com/intro.cfm Came up as a hardware site. (Truth Hardware)
Edit: Its http://www.thetruth.com All Praise the mighty god of google... 
N00b> STFU i r teh 1337 (english: You must be mistaken, good sir or madam. I believe myself to be quite a good player. On an unrelated matter, I also apparently enjoy math.)
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January 23rd, 2004, 10:36 PM
#22
Hooly Sheet Tony, you are RIGHT!
Unfortunately, the current Republican party is more focused on their Christian agenda and growing government bigger.
But you see the alternative is Dean and man I am not seeing eye to eye with that guy at all. You can side with that line of thinking about Bush but he's not the death eater squad set out to rule the planet and force us all into slavery.
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January 23rd, 2004, 10:46 PM
#23
I WISH it was between him and Dean. I guess we'll see how New Hampshire plays out. Right now I am wanting Dean or Edwards- but it looks like Kerry has the superior corporate backing and is gaining percentage points ever day.
Not sure how I will choose in the end if Kerry gets the nomination- maybe just pack up and move to Micronesia or something.
I think that Dean with Clark as a Vice Presidential running mate might make a good ticket.
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January 23rd, 2004, 11:08 PM
#24
I think that Dean with Clark as a Vice Presidential running mate might make a good ticket.
That would be Bush/Carl Rove's dream opponent. Dean would win the hardcore Democrat support (~ 20-30 %), but would fail to win the majority of independent voters (~40-60%), which would mean so long as Bush doesn't piss off/alienate his core supporters (~20-30%) such that they don't vote, then he picks up a majority of the independent vote. Anger and attacks and whining will only carry a candidate so far, it certainly won't carry him to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave...
That little tirade he threw in Iowa, unless something drastically changes in his favor soon, IMHO has doomed his candidacy...Kinda like Ross Perot after all his conspiracy theories and dropping in/out of the Presidential races...
And before you think otherwise, I do think the Democrats have a good chance of winning in the elections this year, but they will have to do it through a positive campaign of ideas that contrasts their visions with that of Bush (who clearly doesn't have much of one, and certainly not one of his own). A very good example of this is what happened in Iowa...what happened to Dean and Gephardt? They were the two most negative of the lot...they plunged in the polls and finished 3rd and 4th...after being 1 and 2...if the Dem's go/stay negative, they will lose...and badly.
/nebulus
There is only one constant, one universal, it is the only real truth: causality. Action. Reaction. Cause and effect...There is no escape from it, we are forever slaves to it. Our only hope, our only peace is to understand it, to understand the 'why'. 'Why' is what separates us from them, you from me. 'Why' is the only real social power, without it you are powerless.
(Merovingian - Matrix Reloaded)
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January 23rd, 2004, 11:59 PM
#25
Good Points by both of you, hey Tony micronesia would be fun. They don't have much of a democracy but I know the ropes and good dive spots. I am with you.
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