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    Did Bush overthrow Aristide?

    "There was no kidnapping. There was no coup. There were no threats," Boucher said. "We did not advocate his stepping down. We made clear we were not going to intervene to prevent him from stepping down," he added
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_1346107.htm

    It seems that whenever they say "we didn't do it", they prolly did it.
    Is it important? Wasn't Aristide a loser anyway?
    Will it affect the US elections?
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    I don't think Aristide was a loser. The US probably did him a favor, though.

    He's an ex-priest (got "fired" because he married a white woman), studied theology in Rome, speaks French, Latin, Spanish, Greek, Italian, German and Hebrew, and when he replaced Baby Doc in 1986, he was considered the "voice of the poor". Then, of course, happened what seems to happen to a lot of leaders: abuse of power, corruption, violations of human rights, nepotism, election frauds, death squads,...

    Let's not forget that the Americans helped Aristide regain power in 1994 (after he got elected in 1990, but was confronted with a coup from one of his generals).
    At least they removed him silently this time, without having to bomb an entire country.

    Reading Haiti's history is like reading a bad b-movie... Aristide lost it, and I'm pretty sure his succesor will do just as bad...

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    Putin anybody?


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    Maybe he just got on a helicopter and flew away? What awaited him was almost certainly a mob style execution?
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    Maybe he just got on a helicopter and flew away
    That would be my guess... with a conversation something like this:

    Mr. Aristide, I am a US marine offering to escort you out of here..... you can stay and be killed, or we can put you on our helicopter and get you out of here.... it's your choice... but we're getting the f^%$ out of here!!

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    Lol, oh and I was thinking. It's very difficult to "overthrow" someone who has lost power and control over the land and people. It was the rebels who did the "overthrow" wasn't it?
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    It's interesting that one of the first things the US gov't
    said to Haitian people was "don't come here"
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    Naw, it won't affect the elections, this is all just miniscule political fodder for a certain number of dems at the moment. It has little to no substance really, and the American people will be thinking about Janet’s nipple more than this in about..... *now*. Oops, too late, we've already forgotten.

    It's laughable that the dems are trying to make a big deal about this guy, we **conspiracy theory** forced out of office **conspiracy theory**. What a joke! No one honestly believes Bush forced this guy out. Coup my rear end. The only coup that occured was the natural kind these folks do every 5 to 7 years...

    Why not let the French take full control here, afterall, these people do speak French. Get our boys out of there as soon as possible. We got bigger fish to fry; e.g. bin laden and terror worldwide.

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    Originally posted here by rcgreen
    It's interesting that one of the first things the US gov't
    said to Haitian people was "don't come here"
    Why should the USA want them?

    1. They do not play baseball.
    2. They do not have oil.
    3. They are not into dealing drugs.
    4. In recent times they have had fascist leaders and not communists.
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    "They are not into dealing drugs."

    your obviously not from the NY metro area. not that haitians are drug dealers but the ones that are tend to be the most vicious of them all. drug wars, ouzies blazing a good time had by all.

    getting aristide out of there saved many lives. who cares how he got out as long as he did and not for his sake.
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