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    New tool would block illegal song swapping

    Network security company Palisade Systems this week will launch software that can identify and block copyrighted songs as they are being traded online.
    Created by software firm Audible Magic and backed strongly by the Recording Industry Association of America, the song-filtering software has already triggered interest in Washington, D.C., along with strong skepticism in the peer-to-peer world and among some students and universities.

    Palisade's new tool is the fruit of a cross-licensing deal struck early in the year, which also gave Audible Magic rights to use Palisade's network-monitoring technology to offer a similar product. Palisade executives say their university customers in particular are interested in the song-blocking capabilities.

    "It's the kind of thing we hear from universities or customers that act more as an ISP," said Doug Jacobson, Palisade's founder and chief technology officer. "They want to take the position of not filtering out all peer-to-peer (traffic), stopping copyrighted works but not the other content."

    Audible Magic's technology, which will be released as an option in the newest version of Palisade's PacketHound network-management services, has formed the centerpiece of an ongoing debate over the future viability of peer-to-peer networks. As the filtering technology begins to appear this year inside university and other networks, the intensity of that debate is likely to grow.

    For much of the early months of the year, RIAA executives helped guide Audible Magic CEO Vance Ikezoye around Washington, D.C., offices, advocating the song-blocking technology as a tool for stopping copyright infringement on file-swapping networks. If built into file-trading programs such as Kazaa or Morpheus, it could help block large numbers of illegal trades, the record industry group said.

    File-swapping companies--some of which have contended that filtering their networks is impractical or even impossible--said they were skeptical of the claims, noting that neither RIAA nor Audible Magic had given them a demonstration of the filtering tools. Industry trade group P2P United says it has repeatedly contacted the company asking to see the filters in action.

    Ikezoye said he still has not demonstrated the technology for the peer-to-peer companies.

    "What we're looking for is a real serious business discussion," Ikezoye said. "At this point, it doesn't look like anybody's interested in real business."

    Palisade's version of the technology sits inside a network, rather than inside a file-swapping program. If installed in a university, for example, it could look inside students' e-mails, instant messages and peer-to-peer transfers, seeking audio "fingerprints" that could be compared with information in Audible Magic's database.

    If a match is found, the technology would block the transfer of the song midstream. Jacobson said the identification process would not work on an encrypted network, such as is used in several newer file-swapping programs. However, the Palisade software could act to block those applications from using the network altogether, instead of blocking individual song transfers, he said.

    The new version of Palisade's PacketHound software will be available to customers this week, the company said.
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    yeah yeah sure

    Let's see if this actualy works and if it does catch on
    how long it takes before someone finds a way around it.

    C'mon. Does this mean that everything wich is encrypted
    is going to get blocked yust because it could be music.

    And what is this thing going to scan on. all the port or yust the one
    a peer-to-peer program uses. Because you can reconfiger bittorrent in
    a snap.

    It's not going to work ever nothing does. yust like water warez alway
    find a way in.
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    Allow me to translate:

    "What we're looking for is a real serious business discussion," Ikezoye said. "At this point, it doesn't look like anybody's interested in real business."
    "We don't know what the $%&*)^ we are talking about, we do NOT have a functional prototype, not even in alpha.............we are running out of money and are looking for someone *&^"$( stupid enough to finance a project that is totally useless to them...............then we can make money out of it"

    ANSWER: try the RIAA.............if they won't finance you, you ARE lusers, because the RIAA certainly aren't the sharpest tool in the box.

    If I were running a P2P network I wouldn't give a damn..............I would expect YOU to pay ME to run any such software? the minimum supply it free?..........with 24/7/365 support, answer by the third ring (why should SAC have all the fun?)

    Just my thoughts

    BTW, if I had stock in that company, I would dump it now

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