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July 2nd, 2004, 08:46 AM
#11
Whatever our own thoughts on this might be, the issue here is wether parents should be allowed to send their kids into a nude camp or not. It should be dealt with in the objective for the sake of this discussion, I think.
I say the ACLU should win. It might seem like an unimportant fact for many, but the thing is while slowly stripping the people of certain liberties, the government is dictating on its subjects what they should do. When there are only so many things one can do without the danger of arrest, surely a lot of people will succumb and trade off their[desired] lifestyle for whatever there is in store. While the analogy with the bus is a bit extreme here, chances are there might exist dress codes for people on the streets, or maybe there will be banned types of clothing.
Now aside from the fact any liberty lost is turning the country slowly into a police state, I really do believe that if parents and children consent for the kids to be naked at such an event then the state should not be allowed to impose decency rules like this one. If they are concerned about privacy they should stop reading people's e-mails and allow the Feds to get into anybody's life for whatever hunch some agent has. Double standards like this never lead to a better society. Everybody feels safe when there are guns pointed [by the state] at everybody. And you have to be a Brady not to care.
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July 2nd, 2004, 04:17 PM
#12
The court didn't say they couldn't send the young naked pubescent daughters to a camp full of young naked boys. Not at all, they said the parents must attend with them. Not sure how that is turning us into a police state. "If you want to send your naked kids to camp with other kids, at least go with them. Have fun." That's my take on the outcome. But still if they agree and controls are set, why not it's private property. I don't think it's a great situation. I was a kid, and you can't tell me they are any different. The law should only step in if there becomes an issue of abuse? Not sure on that one, but that seems ok.
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July 2nd, 2004, 06:20 PM
#13
to me this whole idea of nude summer camps just seems like it is just another of how oversexualized our nation has become. ranging from the music that people listen to going all the way to these summer camps......
if they want to go, let them... if they get diseases, fine, survival of the fittest, they die and i live another day (and i won't have to deal with their stupidity )
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July 2nd, 2004, 06:26 PM
#14
Originally posted here by RoadClosed
The court didn't say they couldn't send the young naked pubescent daughters to a camp full of young naked boys. Not at all, they said the parents must attend with them.
I only read Tedob1's post and from that it came out as permanently ban. If I have time I'll read the whole linked article.
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July 2nd, 2004, 06:36 PM
#15
You will be hard pressed finding accurate info. the ACLU want's you to believe the sky is falling. In fact their language is hard pressed to mention nude or naked, they use alertative lifestyle as usual. But the real case was, they want mom and dad there.
The law, which takes effect Thursday, denies a state license to "any hotel, summer camp or campground ... that maintains, or conducts as any part of its activities, a nudist camp for juveniles." It defines the camps as those attended by "openly nude juveniles" not accompanied by parents or legal guardians.
From a local news place. Lost the site boss walked in. Didn't want him to see "Nude Teen Summer Camp"
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July 2nd, 2004, 08:06 PM
#16
there might exist dress codes for people on the streets
Seems like the only thing they're concerned about right now is indecent exposure....not a very strict dress code.
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July 2nd, 2004, 08:27 PM
#17
Originally posted here by keezel
Seems like the only thing they're concerned about right now is indecent exposure....not a very strict dress code.
Wait, are we talking indecent exposure at nude camps? Is that even logically possible? I was extrapolating on how this might, in years, become an issue [the dress code]. Otherwise no, there is nothing out there yet. But nude camps can hardly be indecent exposure because... well it's not like you're there for chips and cola.
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July 2nd, 2004, 08:31 PM
#18
And it's not oulawing family camps. Only those were it's only kids and NOT the parents. Might place a different perspective for some. Who knows.
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July 2nd, 2004, 08:39 PM
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July 6th, 2004, 11:52 AM
#20
where the hell was that camp when I was a kid??? I had to look at chicks in bikinis and imagine them naked... damn, is imagining chicks naked too good for kids these days? why should they have it any better than I did?
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