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August 29th, 2004, 05:32 AM
#1
Senior Member
Modding my intellimouse optical?
I recently got one of those eluminix light-up keyboards, and it doesn't go very nicely with the red led's on my intellimouse optical. What I'm wondering is if you people think I'd be able to "mod" the mouse by replacing the red led's with blue ones and still have the mouse function? Or, maybe someone else here has already done it?
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August 29th, 2004, 12:14 PM
#2
By red LED's I take it you mean the laser reader in the base of the unit ?
Short answer : NO.
The laser works in the red light range :
For the human eye, the visible radiations range from violet light, in which the shortest rays are about 380 nanometers, to red light, in which the longest rays are about 750 nanometers."
Why would you buy a keyboard that lights up a different colour to your mouse, if it's going to p155 you off so much ?
so now I'm in my SIXTIES FFS
WTAF, how did that happen, so no more alterations to the sig, it will remain as is now
Beware of Geeks bearing GIF's
come and waste the day :P at The Taz Zone
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August 29th, 2004, 05:44 PM
#3
well it would seem that people have tried and got it to work successfully
http://www.taconuts.org/articles/2000/dec/3/page1.php
http://forums.devhardware.com/archive/t-12021
http://www.crapemail.com/mod/mouse/
and this place has a few 'interesting' mods (not necessarily relevant to the discussion but interesting nonetheless!)e.g.
http://www.metku.net/index.html?sect...heel/index_eng
but personally I'd be inclined to agree with foxy to a degree - I'd say yes it is possible if your careful but you may lose some of the responsiveness of the mouse - like foxy indicates the optical sensor would only pick up light from a given wavelength range - and there are no guarantees that the LED would give out any liught in the relevant spectral range
having said that..... maybe you ought to ditch the intellimouse and take a look at this one
http://www.xoxide.com/xoliupmowfan.html
- maybe search around for similar? I'm sure I've seen an intellimouse with blue light.... but I might have hallucinated that
Z
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August 29th, 2004, 06:44 PM
#4
Senior Member
I was always under the impression that the red lights were simply led's because i've taken the mouse apart before and it does not look at all like a laser. But oh well, it's only a $25 mouse, I can always just buy a new one if I mess this up.
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August 29th, 2004, 07:02 PM
#5
viper... LED's in mice are classed as CLASS 1 (or class 2 not sure) LED laser devices I think... not a laser in the true sense of the word but because they shine light at restricted wavelength and at specific intensities they can be considered mildly dangerous to your eyesight (lot of H&S beaurocracy bollocks if you ask me but hey... I wear contact lenses so what does that tell you).
like I say evidently its possible but you might loose a little responsiveness in the mouse if you aren't careful.... be interested to see any pics if you do it though
Z
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August 29th, 2004, 07:08 PM
#6
Senior Member
Alrighty, if I do it (which won't be for a while because I need a new soldering iron) I'll be sure to post some pics.
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August 29th, 2004, 11:51 PM
#7
Wouldn't it be easier to put red LED's / cold cathodes into the keyboard
so now I'm in my SIXTIES FFS
WTAF, how did that happen, so no more alterations to the sig, it will remain as is now
Beware of Geeks bearing GIF's
come and waste the day :P at The Taz Zone
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August 30th, 2004, 12:08 AM
#8
Senior Member
Originally posted here by foxyloxley
Wouldn't it be easier to put red LED's / cold cathodes into the keyboard
Maybe...I just like blue better
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August 30th, 2004, 02:13 AM
#9
Originally posted here by Viper2026
Maybe...I just like blue better
Hey Hey,
It you're just dealing with blue, check out the low end creative optical mouse... .I didn't know creative even made mice until a month ago, but apparently they're getting into the game. It's your standard red on the bottom, but it's not visible from the top of the mouse, and they've put in a few blue LEDs on the top, so the scroll whell and the rest of the mouse appear blue.. and the best part is it was only $19.95 CDN.
Peace,
HT
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August 30th, 2004, 02:49 AM
#10
Supplies
IntelliMouse
Another LED
Soldering Iron and Solder
Mini Phillips Head Screwdriver
All the supplies seem self-explanatory except for the LED. You can change the LED to any color you can find, (i.e. blue, white, green, yellow, orange, red...why?) but if the LED is not bright enough, then your IntelliMouse Eye will not be able to see the surface it is tracking, therefore it will not work as well. We went out and bought a Blue LED at a local electronics store for $4. The specs on our LED is as follows:
LED Specs
Forward voltage: 3.7 typ. 4.5 max
Forward Current: 20mA typ. 30mA
Brightness: 2600mcd
Viewing angle (deg): 30
Lens Color Clear
LED Size 5mm
We went with the 3.7volt hoping that it would be brighter then a 5volt. FYI we have heard of some people using a blue 5volt, and it worked just fine.
http://www.taconuts.org/articles/2000/dec/3/page1.php
Lasers are classified by wavelength and maximum output power into the following safety classes:
* class I: inherently safe; no possibility of eye damage. This can be either because of a low output power (in which cases eye damage is impossible even after hours of exposure), or due to an enclosure that cannot be opened in normal operation without the laser being switched off automatically, such as in CD players.
* class II: the blinking reflex of the human eye will prevent eye damage. Most laser pointers are in this category, with output powers of around 1 to 5 milliwatts.
* class IIIb: can cause damage if the beam enters the eye directly or if the beam is directly reflected into the eye. This generally applies to lasers powers from 5 milliwatts up to several hundred milliwatts.
* class IIIa: similar to IIIb, but with large beam diameters, such that the pupil will only allow a 'class-II'-amount of light to enter the eye. Lasers in this class are mostly dangerous in combination with optical instruments which change the beam diameter.
* class IV: highly dangerous; even non-direct scattering of light from the beam can lead to eye or skin damage. This generally applies to laser powers of more than a few milliwatts. Lasers in this class are usually than several hundred milliwatts or more.
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