It sucks, not because the OS, but because the people making it try to throw it out so fast that it never gets the full attencion it deserves. It should under go much more work to make it more secure and a truely better OS, not every one cares about the windows media player that they spend years on developing when they put a day or two in to a firewall that is about as strong as a paper bag, and wow there not to sturdy. I think maybe bill and his buddied should wake up and smell the java, and build a better OS next time around. Maybe longhorn will prove me wrong!, thank you, eNIX