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December 22nd, 2005, 03:11 AM
#11
But arin.net doesn't give any personal information, it gives information about the owner of the IP (your ISP) not the user of it. Like your address for example tells you were you live not who's living in it. Would the RIAA call the ISP and ask them for information about the user and will it be legal to give out such information so easily because if that's the case, someone can easily social engineer an ISP worker to give them the users address.
Wow... I gave you more credit then that Raion... That stuff has been going on for ages... ...
**edit**
Oh I understand what your asking... Your asking if it's ok for third parties to force ISP's to give personal information about cutomers, and if it's legal for ISP's to do this...
Still, this has been going on for a while...
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December 22nd, 2005, 03:32 AM
#12
All the recording industries efforts are automated, using third party contractors. Look up Bay TSP, there are others.
I'm sure there are companies automating this process (and overcharging for it), but the major point is that it doesn't take wiretaps, 1337 hax, goverment satellites, or lots of money to do it.
http://search.cpan.org/search?query=gnutella&mode=all
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If the ethics don't deter an individual from filesharing, then perhaps the simplicity of getting caught will?
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December 22nd, 2005, 07:16 AM
#13
Dalek that was a nice article that you pulled thanks for sharing..
And Soda this was a very intriguing little example, and i feel that you have just scrapped the surface with this investigation that you have done.
I wonder just how more sinister the RIIAA is, i mean there must be a few little tactics that they have up there sleeve.
And it would most certainly be a very valuable article, so are there anymore articles in the pipe work.?
I've already heard of a few individuals in Australia that have been busted from p2p programs.
You might download one or two here and there, but in the end it all adds up and you will get caught..
cheers
front2back
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December 22nd, 2005, 08:39 AM
#14
I use other people's wireless for my p2p.
And I still use a socks5 proxy.
Catch me if you can.
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December 23rd, 2005, 12:46 AM
#15
Just out of curiousity, I thought I would try the PeerGuardian program and enable the HTTP blocker to see what showed up in the logs.
I did this while opening my Firefox Browser, and I have three sites bookmarked to open right away, and while this was going on I had disabled the HTTP feature in the PeerGuardian program, well was I surprised, out of the 3 forums I have bookmarked only one opened the other two, (one is AO) would not open, so I looked in the logs and noticed these:
Media Sentry Inc
Safenet
Jupitermediacorp
These were being blocked by the program, now I started to readup on MediaSentry and it turns out they are being aquired by Safenet http://www2.safenet-inc.com/new_site...ory.asp?ID=388
This is what I found for MediaSentry Inc....
MediaSentry, based in Morristown, New Jersey, is a global provider of anti-piracy and business management services for the recording and motion picture industries. The company’s anti-piracy solutions help clients detect and deter unauthorized distribution of copyrighted content and prosecute those who engage in piracy.
Sounds like that 3rd party stuff Soda_Popinsky is talking about.
Some of the IP's logged 206.169.164.228 Time Warner
63.146.109.212 Qwest Communications (jupitermedia corp)
63.236.73.76 Qwest Communciactions (jupitermedia corp)
192.43.161.100 Safenet
PC Registered user # 2,336,789,457...
"When the water reaches the upper level, follow the rats."
Claude Swanson
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December 23rd, 2005, 02:30 AM
#16
Re: Re: Anatomy of a RIAA Investigation
I've already heard of a few individuals in Australia that have been busted from p2p programs.
You might download one or two here and there, but in the end it all adds up and you will get caught..
You obviously have never been in an American university... students are dropping like flies. I can think of 3 personal friends who have been through this same process with the RIAA.
Originally posted here by Donkey Punch
I liked the read, Soda. I always wondered what happened with an RIAA investigation. One question, is the BSA and MPAA similar?
Yeah, they're all trade groups that protect the interests of whatever industry they're involved in, and all three have major campaigns against piracy, almost as their primary function it seems. (RIAA, MPAA, BSA)
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December 23rd, 2005, 03:28 AM
#17
Soda!!
I want 50% of your kickbacks, or else, i'm going to post how it's realy done..............*there is a big grin here*
What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from realistic simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can assume it will be pretty bad. - Dave Barry
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December 24th, 2005, 02:37 AM
#18
Re: Re: Re: Anatomy of a RIAA Investigation
Originally posted here by Soda_Popinsky
Yeah, they're all trade groups that protect the interests of whatever industry they're involved in, and all three have major campaigns against piracy, almost as their primary function it seems. (RIAA, MPAA, BSA) [/B]
That's what I figured. When I would visit BSA's web site for instance, they would not really focus on end user piracy, but companies loading more software than licenses to support them. NukePirates on the other hand, would go after web sites.
I guess it depends on what each focuses on I guess.
Thanks for the reply.
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