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    heh. More song lyrics too. Last halloween sucked bro. You can do better.

    Let's see. Other blasts from the past that helped make AO great -

    The uncensored, unscripted video feed from New Orleans during Katrina - by an AO member. (Or was that Beaumont, TX and Rita? I can't remember, I've slept since then)

    TS going nuclear on (insert [L]user nick here)

    MSM's biking exploits!

    Egg and I getting into philosophical debates.

    (dare I say this?) Spesh when he was behaving, nuking on spesh when he wasn't.

    And some rare occasional stuff that deserved it's own creative forum - Original song lyrics, stories, poetry, and the like. Even geeks get creative sometimes. (Bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly, get started now!(yes, that's resistor color bands)) (Kiss me with your blowtorch eyes you Xener diode wench! (that's nonsensical fluff, but you can garner meaning from it I suppose...))

    It ain't all technical, ain't all security, but it helps build community amongst the members (read as: Core membership increasing, a good thing).
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    Hey ICE~

    I don't delete real posts............... the only posts I have deleted have been spam............. you know, pr0n sites, performance improving pharmaceuticals and anatomy enhancers.

    If anyone likes that sort of stuff, please let me know and I will make copies and e-mail them to you..............

    Otherwise I just move stuff (merge) or create a new thread where someone has posted to a very old, non-related topic., or in the wrong forum.

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    dude, that's so 2 pages ago. You gotta refresh more.

    Thank you for not sending me your deleted spam. I have enough to delete and contend with on my other forum, although merges and prunings are rare there.

    Now back to the topic. I appear to be the only one making suggestions at this moment. Gore, Nihil, JPNyc, how about what you personally would like to see here? I realize you're on the Jup side of the fence by virtue of your moderator (and admin, respectively) positions, but in a thread such as this, politics should be put aside completely and honest individual opinions and constructive suggestions welcomed...
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    Well I'm not a security specialist, I'm a web developer, so as far as topics are concerned that's up to you guys and the editorial staff.

    As far as how the forum is run, what I would like to see is the reputations go bye-bye, and just a modest amount of civility on the part of all parties concerned, including from myself and the crew. I'm not saying I'm trying to turn it into "Dr. Phil" (puke), but it can't be a Rap special, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gore
    OK. I say improving them isn't hard at all. Like I said anyone on here can post any high tech related thread they want... I popped in one about Linux and BSD VS Windows because of that very reason. Usually that's a soft spot for baiting other members and it worked somewhat but nothing like it should have but there is some OK stuff in that one.

    We could also make a Social Engineering forum. Not sure why there isn't one already or why JP never made one but I think that is also a good idea.

    I also think if some of the people bitching about AO got off their soap boxes and on their hardware boxes and posted things they like we wouldn't be hearing about it as much. I mean it takes the same amount of time to post "AO needs better posts and the mods are bad guys except for like 3" as it does to say "This is something new in security what do you think?".
    That was some of mine, and I'm still thinking in between doing stuff I have to get done today.

    One idea might be AO mail, that would be cool if we could get some ads to provide that the way google does, but some members would probably not like that and say use Gmail... even though@antionline.com does have a way cooler ending.

    We could have some of our members do interviews with known people in the field, or something similar.

    Some code monkeys could be hired to write a firewall or other protect yourself type thing and market the hell out of it.

    We could set up a live honeypot for members to watch who's trying to break in, how they're doing it, and what they should have tried or guessing why they tried something.... Which would of course REALLY drag out some discussion on how breaks ins work.

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    Now that honeypot intrigues me. I'd dearly love to see a crack realtime - and an analysis of who tried what, what worked, and what failed, and the why's to both, and what could've been done to tighten the system.

    I also like the email thing - |ce@antionline.com does have a certain appeal This would involve a large amount of resources though depending on how much space you'd allocate to your membership (perhaps this could be one of those cool 'reward' thingies?)

    Hmmm... codemonkeys and firewalls. Why hire 'em? We've got coders here in the membership, they're lurking just under the surface. Perhaps an AO challenge is in order - combine it with the honeypot. Coder (or team of coders) develop a firewall, it gets stuck onto the honeypot and field tested. Unpenetrated winners get a cool reward plus his name and software featured (and sold by JupM to the public on his behalf, x% royalties to the coder(s))...

    Mmmmmm code monkeys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Wy7gRGgeA
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    Whatever's mentioned in this thread is going to be discussed in the conference because we're going to work directly from it. So let 'em fly lads!

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    I knew I had a good idea here somewhere

    And yea that firewall mixed with your ideas is cool !

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    I'd like to see some dll injection techniques explained. And examples. Just because i will dig through RFC's doesn't mead that I enjoy it!

    JP The corporate lawyer accountability stuff - that's a cop out. If AO can't be know as a hacker site, someones got a lot of work to do. This is one tiny forum in the universe of jupmedia. Let the lawyers have the rest of the sites, leave AO alone.

    And while your at it - how bout setting up a streaming media server for us. Something off shore, say next to the Pirate Bay.

    There is illegal, and stupid lawyers. Know the difference.

    Now what exactly do your boss' tell you about content management?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinowuff
    I'd like to see some dll injection techniques explained. And examples. Just because i will dig through RFC's doesn't mead that I enjoy it!

    JP The corporate lawyer accountability stuff - that's a cop out. If AO can't be know as a hacker site, someones got a lot of work to do. This is one tiny forum in the universe of jupmedia. Let the lawyers have the rest of the sites, leave AO alone.

    And while your at it - how bout setting up a streaming media server for us. Something off shore, say next to the Pirate Bay.

    There is illegal, and stupid lawyers. Know the difference.

    Now what exactly do your boss' tell you about content management?
    No chance of that. The company wants nothing to do with a hacking site, and no reputable company in the world, would. Oh, security software companies may HIRE 'em to test out their solutions, but none of em run "how to hack" forums.

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