Meditation 101

[cmnoop]

Meditation hell no I cant keep still or from impure thought s for 30 seconds!

[Methcook]

Is it really that important to you, that you would take hallucinaganic...drugs?

Oh yeah, definately. Using hallucinogenic drugs for medition and spiritual enlightenment is nothing new. This has been going on since humans started walking upright. I've suffered no ill effects from hallucinogens. Imo, if used responsibly they are a valuable tool.

[Eating_Scarlett]

When you're taking a drug to help you with astral projection, then you're not really doing it. It's a hallucination, you're just IMAGINING an out of body experience.

I've found generally that people who draw from the right side of the brain, creatives, as opposed to bankers, accountants, etc, are more inclined to be in touch with their sixth sense.

And also, it doesn't matter how much you read about it, if you don't have that spirituality, faith, and strength of will, nothing is going to help you. It's something you're born with.

The problem with astral projection is that it's made out to be a 'fun' thing, when infact it's pretty dangerous. It's a souls dislocation with it's body, and in theory, while the body is uninhabited, another soul can enter your body and 'take residence', for lack of a better term, leaving your soul floating without a body. It's a very risky thing. It mostly happens under EXTREMELY life threatening circumstances, like when a person is in a life or death situation, they might have an out of body experience. That's because their concentration is so intense, focused, and they probably won't even realise they've done it.

Yeah. That's my bit, take it or leave it.

[Methcook]

Where to begin? you're wrong on all points. I'll just leave it at that.

[BERBURT]

yea scarlet is full of crap
let me guess and on halloween devels run amuck.
oh and watch for black cats and ladders and you must have triscodecaphobia

[Eating_Scarlett]

Originally posted here by Methcook
Where to begin? you're wrong on all points. I'll just leave it at that.

by 'leaving it at that', I can only assume you've got nothing to back up your post.

BERBURT: (were you on drugs when you thought up that name??) FYI, i've read a bit on ESP, meditation, O.B experiences, and a close family friend is a yoga instuctor. I'm an aussie, so halloween can kiss my sweet behind. we don't 'do' halloween.

[Methcook]

I can tell you've read a bit on the subject. The ability of some roaming soul to enter one's body while astral projecting is a common myth. It doesnt happen. You are correct about saying that everyon is born with the ability to astral project. As a matter of fact most people do it frequently especialy during childhood without ever knowing it or dismissing it as a dream. It would seem to me that there would be alotta possessed bodies walking around if astral projecting opened us up to this possibilty.

And you implied that I simply read about this and lacked faith and spirituality. You dont know me and that's far from the truth.

Perhaps some hallucinogens are powerful enough to make one think they are outta body. I;ve never been lucky enuogh to try any of these. Ketamine is known to induce OBE's in people. This is one reason that it's mainly used in vet medicine now. Most people like to remain in the physical. I;m not gonna pots any links. Do a web search and you'll find respected authors that detail this. Speficially look for Dr. Carl Jenson who wrote extensively on the subject while drawing from his own experience with the drug.

[haraam77]

For those who are "gifted" like myself, it happens often during REM. It's easy to become concious during this state. Once you have started this "lucid" dreaming...it's easy to astral project. As for those who dwell with skeptical ignorance....ahahhaaa....it must really suck to be you.

[5150]

i heard if you dream in color, that is a form of astral projection. i dream in color all the time for some reason. The most distinctive one i had a few years ago, i saw a man falling to the ground engulfed with flames. the flames grew above him and kind of spun around as i was looking up at the sky, which was black as i recall. it scared the **** out of me. speaking of flames, have you guys seen the pictures of Satan in the terrorist attacks? or pictures of satan in anything with flames basically. here is a link to the terrorist ones. www.linkydinky.com/devil.shtml and here is one that is just pretty interesting all around. http://thewebdirectory.com/ghost/misc.htm

[s0nIc]

ahhh good post grasshopper.. i give you 10 greenies for that..

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A wise person gravitates to peace and harmony because he knows it is advantageous to do so.

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