Is hacking really possible????

[8*B@LL]

Originally posted here by a_420_hacker_24
If you want to hack a 98 box just go to Start>run>then type the \\ip\c$ of the box and if your lucky the c drive should pop up....thats because 98 still have a FAT file system, And as we all know FAT is not sercure at all.

um...lol, win 98 does not have a default c$ share, and even if it did it would have NOTHING to do with FAT or FAT32, it has to do with windows file sharing system. NT and 2k(and probably XP pro) have default C$ shares, but they are restricted to useres in the administratior group on that box, and domain admins ect. so just randomly choosing a pc that had the C$ share would do nothing for you if you didnt have the username and pass of a member of that group(although it's usually pretty safe to assume that Administrator is a valid username).

[Wickdgin]

Originally posted here by 8*B@LL


um...lol, win 98 does not have a default c$ share, and even if it did it would have NOTHING to do with FAT or FAT32, it has to do with windows file sharing system. NT and 2k(and probably XP pro) have default C$ shares, but they are restricted to useres in the administratior group on that box, and domain admins ect. so just randomly choosing a pc that had the C$ share would do nothing for you if you didnt have the username and pass of a member of that group(although it's usually pretty safe to assume that Administrator is a valid username).

It has everything to do with the file system, FAT has practicly no file permissions . NT, 2k and XP pro all use the NTFS file system which does use file permissions based on users & groups. It is not the "file sharining system", but the file system itself that is responsible for permisiions.

Let's use this as an example though. Lets say someone exploited a hole in IE that allowed read/write access to the users file system. If they were using FAT32 that person would have full read/write access to anywhere on the file system, if they were using NTFS that same person would be limited to the permissions of that user (unless of course the victom had admin privleges).

[8*B@LL]

ug, i can't believ i'm about to go through this, but here goes:

Originally posted here by Wickdgin


It has everything to do with the file system, FAT has practicly no file permissions.

no, as i explained: 9x/me have no default c$ shares so it has nothing to do whith the file system loaded, it has to do with the ms defaults. and who the hell is going to create one for no reason WITH NO PASSWORD anyway?

thats what i thought.

NT, 2k and XP pro all use the NTFS file system which does use file permissions based on users & groups. It is not the "file sharining system", but the file system itself that is responsible for permisiions.

erm, lets get this straight: windows file and print sharing can be set up in several ways on any system. even on a 9x box you can set up passwords and permissions based on that password(ie one password for read access and annother for read/write access).

Let's use this as an example though. Lets say someone exploited a hole in IE that allowed read/write access to the users file system.

but we aren't talking about an IE exploit, we are talking about a guy who suggested trying to "hack" a 98 box using a c$ share.

If they were using FAT32 that person would have full read/write access to anywhere on the file system

yep.

if they were using NTFS that same person would be limited to the permissions of that user (unless of course the victom had admin privleges).

they would also be unrestrected if IE was for some reason running as system(like if it was a scheduled task for some odd reason)

[edit: fixed a quote i forgot to close]

[phorax]

if you do not secure xp securely then there are much toooo many ways of getting into the sys.
the standard remote controll features and so on urgently need to be deactivated!! and the users that by default are set up must be deactivated and/or deleted...

this is absolutely necessary!

[phorax]

here is a really goo documentation helping to secure win xp:
http://web5.webhostshop.de/inhalt/gu...berwachung.pdf
only 1prob: GERMAN! might be youll be able to translate it (world.altavista.com or so)..
its great!!

[chsh]

Originally posted here by a_420_hacker_24
If you want to hack a 98 box just go to Start>run>then type the \\ip\c$ of the box and if your lucky the c drive should pop up....thats because 98 still have a FAT file system, And as we all know FAT is not sercure at all.

Umm, even while that is entirely incorrect, that's not hacking a box anymore than surfing to a website is, or connecting to an FTP server that has been misconfigured to allow uploads.

[gold eagle]

chsh -

Newbies want to hack win 98 now. Isn't that kinda old here in 02?