A small gripe about the IRC

[chsh]

Well, I too have jumped to another channel because of the pointless irrelevant chatter going on in #antionline.

I was helping Redgore with some firewall config stuff, and it was just impossible to hold a conversation about technology because of the mindless chatter. Being a chanop, I was tempted to mute the channel, but instead I decided red and I should hop on over to #security to discuss it there.

I personally dislike the amount of bull***t going about IRC lately, and especially what's happened in the last couple of days. I don't run the show, I just help try and keep the channel tidy, so I have little say in how things work in the IRC channel.

[Louie]

Perhaps there should be more then just one channel with a bot. Something that logs the channel and etc so when disputes arise it can be resolved easier and more effectively. Negative also brought up a good idea about creating a channel that ops and opers join when they are around so people can go in there and say a problem they are having w/ another user etc.

I think all these are great ideas and hope that the ops and opers in IRC choose to implement some of these.

Kudos to everyone for their great ideas.

[Quad]

Heh....I wonder if DALNET or EFNET get hit with so much nonsense. I agree the chat gets off-topic, quite frequently I might add. But then again, talking 24/7 about computers and security is equally lame.

Even the most hard core nerds need a break from the bits and the bytes. And just in case people havent noticed, AO has become a "community" and is no longer a cut-n-dry security site. Just like any site it must evolve or die.

I appreciate the support of the people who have posted in favor of me not being "fired" (laughs). Since most people who want to see me go, have never OP/OPER'd any IRC channel and have no idea the ammount of BS dealt with on a daily basis. It's an easy thing to bitch and moan from the sidelines.



Proud: a.k.a Paul Bedbor - I thought we had this settled.... I will assume from this point on we don't. If you got a problem with me bring it on, please, I sit in anticipation of confronting you; at any time on any level. I have nothing to fear from you or your logs. Your a pathetic gimp. - Love Quad

[souleman]

I think that all the ops and opers should be removed. Make JP run the channel as a full time job. Then, what he says goes....

Ok, what kind of nonesence is this. So it gets off topic sometimes, big deal. A few lines is no big deal. If you want to hold a more indepth conversation about something non-computer related topic (ie DNA splicing, sex, whatever), start a new channel. If you don't know how ask someone. There is already a channel called #chat for any long irrelevant topics you want to discuss.

If it is an indepth discussion about a computer topic that only affects 1 or two people, it may be best to start another channel also. I don't care how to write the hello world program in perl. But to some people, it might be interesting, so announce you are going to explain it, then start the channel. It will be like mini-classes like hogfly is trying to get started.

If you have a tech question, don't be affraid to ask it. A lost of people come in and just say "can I ask a question?" Of course you can, just ask it. Sometimes it gets missed, then tell an op that you got a question you want to ask, or ask them. Most of the ops know who knows what, and will either make sure that you get the question asked, or direct you to someone that knows the answer. If you are afraid of the ops for some reason, ask me if I am around. Most of the ops don't really like me but if someone is on that can help you, I will let you know. But make sure you read what is written afterwords. Someone asked a question earlier today, and both Hogfly and myself answered it twice. They then repeated the question a third time. That gets really anoying.

And if you have real problems with the ops/opers, get over it. There are other servers out there. The people that are ops/opers are there for a reason. If a lot of people have a problem with a certain op/oper, then bring it up in a tactful way, and support you complaint. Don't just say xxxx should be fired. That means nothing. You will not get results unless you get support from other people, and for an oper, you need a lot of support.

[Proud]

Quad, I've opOPed a few gaming IRC channels before, and I've never had to deal with BS on a daily basis. I guess in this case "like thing attract", you POS.

[Quad]

Originally posted here by Proud
Quad, I've opOPed a few gaming IRC channels before, and I've never had to deal with BS on a daily basis. I guess in this case "like thing attract", you POS.

OMG....LOL - I can barley stop laughing to reply. 'Proud like a ****', whoops I mean 'proud like a god' (laughs at that pretensious nickname) quit huffing glue before you post in the future. Then your less-than-coherent post might make sense...

I guess in this case "like thing attract", you POS. <---still trying to figure this out. God I feel my IQ dropping just taking the time to respond to your nonsense.

Kindly eat **** and live. - Love Quad

[Proud]

the ammount of BS dealt with on a daily basis

Now normally in RL, opposite things attract, but here's what I did: You're a POS, so you should not attract BS to your IRC channel, but

in this case "like thing attract"

implying you're a POS. Do ya get it now?

[Louie]

Proud your an idiot. I hope you get banned. You don't contribute ****.

[Proud]

Not when I'm bitching about a crap IRC OPs I don't.

[hogfly]

ok, time for papa hogfly to take off his belt and start kicking people's asses.

Vorlin: I feel your pain, yes subjects do tend to get buried in **** in IRC. especially good ones.
however, With there being only one registered channel on the server, it is kind of hard to keep it on technical chat at all times. people do get 'off-topic' ( if there ever is one) and people tend to blab about nosensical things.
A simple fact of our IRC is that we do not have enough regular visitors to increase the amount of registered channels. So what do you get ? a melting pot of conversations in one channel.
A solution ? you can create your own channel to have a chat to talk about a specific topic. the #security channel is a good place for that too.
I apologize for you having to deal with that on the rare occasion you do join us. It is IRC and it is a general chat channel, its really hit or miss in there. sometimes it can be tech, other times who knows what.

To the rest of you who have problems, address them with me. I will do what I can to make #antionline better for people.

Thanks.