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Thread: Microsoft, Palladium, Trusted Computing

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    Been reading about this for a few months rather apprehensively...normally I would welcome just about any move by M$ to concentrate on security, but to me this reeks of nothing more than Big Brother and copyright protection. You will always have the herd of cattle that mindlessly accept whatever comes their way, even this odious degree of invasion of privacy, but IMHO, my answer to M$ and any other vendor that thinks this is an acceptible business practice: Secure This!

    The day that M$ or intel make this (for example the deal with encryption keys on hardware that could make certain components on my pc stop working) the basis of how they do business is the day I walk over to the freeware community completely and permanently.

    At the very least a totally Linux workshop sounds better everyday...

    /nebulus
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    and just think in a few microserf may be able to get into your systems at wiil and prosecute u for pirated software or music. this is turning into a surealistic nightmare.
    Ametuers get jail time Pros get jobs.

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    I'm in agreement with Nebulus

    I'm already starting my personal migration from windows to Linux, I find i'm booting into 98 less, and less.

    I don't have a problem with palladium because I can see into the future ... (hopefully)

    ::: screen goes wobbly to signify time travel to December the 30th 2004 ::::

    MS does what it normally does, and releases a hugely bug riddled OS called Palladium. people start to realise that they can no longer borrow a friends CD to listen to on their new, but expensive PC,added to this all their old MP3s no longer play (rightly or wrongly)

    But hold on a moment there is this OS called Linux. It's totally free, or at least fairly cheap, and it'll still do all the things that my old PC could, and the writers of the OS don't want to monitor my every act. Sure it's a bit harder to really get to grips with, but still ...

    ::: back to today ::::

    I really think MS are heading for a fall over this, who are the people who really download music, films etc? In my opinion it's the more tech savvy parts of the population esp the young. These are the puirchasing managers, the HR people, the IT specialists of both today, and tomorrow.

    Try as I might, I can't stop myself from allowing my increasing anti MS sentiment creap into the decisions I make at work. that's why we now have 7 Red Hat Linux servers.

    And it's suddenly getting easier to sell to the directors .. for a start they've now heard of it, there's support avaliable, and they're still smarting at the last FAST, BSA audit, and the new expense of MS's improved licensing squeeze.

    I'm not a Linux Evangelist , "But Hey, I'm making the switch" And I do have purchasing influence.

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    Lucky us, one more reason not to trust Microsoft. I don't believe in piracy but if they dare keep me off the net because I won't use their "secure" software, well I'm not sure what I'll do but I'm sure it will break from normally pacificistic nature.
    what is love but contempt for hate?

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    isn't it amazing the great lengths that a company would go to "improve security" . and wouldn't this also be considered a monopoloy if all of a sudden you had to use all m$ software ? i am beginning to think that people that have migrated to linux have the right idea.
    Ametuers get jail time Pros get jobs.

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    I read over that article and must say it is terribly biased and the whole thing is exaggerated. I dont think that there is anyway MS would do something that would cost them money, so some linux users are making a big deal over nothing.

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    boy the saying is really tue money talks and b.s. walks. who would have thought that your own system might one day rat you out?
    Ametuers get jail time Pros get jobs.

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    Microsoft won't sell many versions of Palladium over the counter, at least not to anyone who KNOWS what's in it. A lot of the less knowledgeable will buy it because it's from MS and it's the latest Windows version. That's what MS is counting on. Then, a year later it'll be installed in every PC from the major players.

    I saw a horror movie about a kid being possessed the other night. The first thing I thought of was Microsoft. Demonic possession follows a pattern.

    Infestation (Palladium hits the market)
    Obsession (people who don't know any better want the newest version)
    Possession (they got ya).

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