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March 15th, 2003, 02:14 AM
#11
Junior Member
The reason I said that Smalltalk's "everything is an object" design makes it a little harder to use is that even variables of basic datatypes are considered objects and instanciating a new object every time for simple integer variables and having to use methodcalls to maniplulate them is cumbersom.
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March 15th, 2003, 02:14 AM
#12
Junior Member
The reason I said that Smalltalk's "everything is an object" design makes it a little harder to use is that even variables of basic datatypes are considered objects and instanciating a new object every time for simple integer variables and having to use methodcalls to maniplulate them is cumbersom.
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March 15th, 2003, 08:06 PM
#13
Junior Member
Thanks for the replies, there's a lot of information there to consider.
If anything, the C++ route would appear to be the best choice even though it has the "difficult-to-lean" tag.
Time to buy some books - methinks.
Cheers
Humpy
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March 15th, 2003, 08:06 PM
#14
Junior Member
Thanks for the replies, there's a lot of information there to consider.
If anything, the C++ route would appear to be the best choice even though it has the "difficult-to-lean" tag.
Time to buy some books - methinks.
Cheers
Humpy
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March 15th, 2003, 08:30 PM
#15
Python/Perl
Guess I'll add my .02 c . . .I started w/ C++ and had some problems with it, it is definatey a powerful language, in that you can do anything you want with it. . .
I've never learned Python, I should I've got everything I need with the FreeBSD distro, but I love Perl and wish I would have started with it instead, CompSci 101 was C++ though. I think if I started with Perl or Python, it would have been easier to grasp the concepts in C++, they're all pretty similar. . . for, while, if loops, etc.. just the variables that are different w/ a few exceptions, switch cases, ect. . .with Perl it's not as strict, unless you want it to be, and I would assume the same with Python.
Who knows though, I started with C++ and maybe if I had started w/ Perl instead I would have had the same problem as I did, but I doubt it.
Every now and then, one of you won't annoy me.
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March 15th, 2003, 08:30 PM
#16
Python/Perl
Guess I'll add my .02 c . . .I started w/ C++ and had some problems with it, it is definatey a powerful language, in that you can do anything you want with it. . .
I've never learned Python, I should I've got everything I need with the FreeBSD distro, but I love Perl and wish I would have started with it instead, CompSci 101 was C++ though. I think if I started with Perl or Python, it would have been easier to grasp the concepts in C++, they're all pretty similar. . . for, while, if loops, etc.. just the variables that are different w/ a few exceptions, switch cases, ect. . .with Perl it's not as strict, unless you want it to be, and I would assume the same with Python.
Who knows though, I started with C++ and maybe if I had started w/ Perl instead I would have had the same problem as I did, but I doubt it.
Every now and then, one of you won't annoy me.
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March 15th, 2003, 08:42 PM
#17
I once asked the same question and most of the ressponces are the same. I'm working on learning on C++. And so i would say just to strait to C/C++.
Good luck!
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March 15th, 2003, 08:42 PM
#18
I once asked the same question and most of the ressponces are the same. I'm working on learning on C++. And so i would say just to strait to C/C++.
Good luck!
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March 16th, 2003, 04:41 AM
#19
Member
all
to call yourself a programmer you must know C++ and Java, do not be scared at the beginning everyone has to go trough this, but surely these two languages are worth the the effort.
anyway if it ´wasn´t an interpreted language PERL would be the best of all, i hope its developers keep on working like they´ve done, it´s excellent for internet begginers but inexperienced programmers tend to make serious SECURITY mistakes, you should be careful about that..
good luck
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March 16th, 2003, 04:41 AM
#20
Member
all
to call yourself a programmer you must know C++ and Java, do not be scared at the beginning everyone has to go trough this, but surely these two languages are worth the the effort.
anyway if it ´wasn´t an interpreted language PERL would be the best of all, i hope its developers keep on working like they´ve done, it´s excellent for internet begginers but inexperienced programmers tend to make serious SECURITY mistakes, you should be careful about that..
good luck
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