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April 21st, 2003, 05:10 AM
#11
Banned
borland c++ or ms visual C++ ithink you need to learn borland c++ first as pondation ok then you can learn viaual c++ n its more easy ok ,good luck
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April 21st, 2003, 09:10 AM
#12
Member
I've said this on a couple other threads, but again, I'm gonna reccomend you spend $25 and get the book "C++ in Plain English" by Brian Overland. This book has both a simple, easy to follow step-by-step tutorial as well as a thorough reference section. This book will both get you started and keep you going.
And I got the Borland compiler for free too, but that was quite a while ago.
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April 21st, 2003, 02:04 PM
#13
Junior Member
don't use borland. borland sucks.
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April 21st, 2003, 05:14 PM
#14
Member
For a beginner I would recomend Borland because of its easy to use interface. It may lack a few of the features that Microsoft offers but for just learning it wont make much of a difference. Also try to get a book or two about C++ because help files dont always have the answers. You might also get a friend to lend you his copy of Borland or visual so you can try it out and decide for yourself which you like better. Every programer has different tastes(like me i always change the syntax highlighting). C++ is easier to understand once you get past the main issues(such as Object Oriented Programing), and shouldnt be a big deal other than finding the specific function for the job that you want to do. Have fun!
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April 26th, 2003, 05:43 AM
#15
Well, the final tests AP computer science tests have been switched to JAVA, so C++ is considered an old language JAVA is slower that C++ and i perfer C++ because you can do much more with it. Anyways, as far as compliers are considered, you sound like a newbie, so i would just get a learning edition of something for like 50 bucks at Frys or something. Dont buy a full compiler for like 700 bucks or how ever much they cost. And if you were really smart, you would just download a full complier from one of the sites mentioned above...
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April 26th, 2003, 06:17 AM
#16
Member
Re: Borland C++ or MS Visual C++?
Originally posted here by King of CaveMen
Heres my background I know little about programming, I understand html throughly, I tried php, but failed, will try a new approach by reading more and doing things in order, but I want to move beyond web based programming...
what tool will help me learn C++ better...? Borland C++ Personal or MS Visual C++
? Or should I learn visual basic? Let me know on pros and cons please, price is about the same for both products, tho Borland is slightly cheaper.
I started with C++ using old Borland compiler & later bought Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 Enterprise edition which contains Microsoft Visual C++ & Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0. From my experience, I advise you to start with Visual Basic instead of C++ because Visual Basic is very very very very very very ... easy compared to C++. C++ is the most powerful language around & difficult to learn. I regret that I didn't start with Visual Basic as I am now in love with Visual Basic. Everyone says that VB is easy. So, you should try it.
Regarding tool, I think learning Visual C++ itself is a challenge. So, it is better to learn Visual Basic.
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