Well said Neggie. d00dz Attackin... listen and listen good.

Old school whitepapers are good for learning how the hacker subculture works and I found it informative as well as entertaining. I do not understand why so many people get so worked up about it. Like phishphreek80 said, we cannnot learn to be an effective system adminstrator if we do not know what the kiddies do.

d00dz Attackin, you did not **** up. The only **** up you made was you stuck the old doc in the tutorials forum designed for original tutorials, however, a lot of people have made the mistake of stucking unoriginal tutorials in that forum anyway (some even stuck unoriginal tutorials and claimed it to be thiers). So no need to apologize. Stand up for yourself and don't worry about a little gif on a web site.