Artificial Inteligence

[x acidreign x]

Well, i suppose that it can't go into "smack my bitch up" mode. (and here I thought that was a good thing). Anyway, that cracker/virus remark was actually a rather interesting analogy. I suppose a computer virus to an AI would be considered a sickness. perhaps a sort of "immune system" would be needed to protect against such a thing, not just a virus scanner, but more of a coordinated proccess of small programs to patrol and defend against malicious intruders. an AI would be very vulnerable to such an attack too, seeing as its entire function is the assimilate new programming.

[mark_boyle2002]

S*&^ I just put another tangent on this. I need more coffee. back in a minute.

[Wrayth]

The thing is, 'smack my bitch up' is still a series of preprogrammed responses. The alcohol is preventing some of the more complex patterns from linking properly, so the base patterns, governing 'anger' and 'aggression' related responses, are kicking in and causing the behaviour. It's still what you're programmed to do... or rather, its still recorded events being replayed.

sickness is still limited, because we don't have an entire body here, just a brain... you'd need a brain related illness. perhaps a virus that creates random segments of the database, or messes with the weighting or linking system. It would be nasty, and hard to guard against, since it would be difficult to recover from.

Remember, this is still an emulation of the biological process, not the actual process itself...

[mark_boyle2002]

hey wrayth,

Define improvisation as a series of responses would you ?
Shakespear already new his book before he wrote it ?
Babys wouldn't cry unless we taught them to would they ?

Cmon think man

[Wrayth]

you think man! :P

Of course it's a series of responses. Thats how our brain works. The randomisation factor that creates 'new' concepts is the outside variables that affect the pattern linkages.

Shakespear didn't write anything new, or even anything that people didn't know... his language control centers and linkage efficiency (ie intelligence) were simple faster and more complex that other peoples, so he had a wider base pattern set to draw from... hence his 'creative' ability.

And babies crying are simply base reactions... the 'default' bios setting, if you will. Defined over millenia of evolution... and fairly unique to humans and other large-group social animals. Making loud noises when you're a weak infant is bad to small social groups, but it's pretty good when there are lots of stroppy adults are around to defend you :P

[mark_boyle2002]

Wrayth we will just have to agree to disagree on this.

One more example then. How come the human race is always inventing new things and surpassing its previous generations ? It can't be preprogrammed because its thinking outside the box.

Do you think a computer could ever be used to solve lateral thinking puzzles ?

[Wrayth]

At no point are we inventing something that isn't there. We only take existing concepts and link them, creating 'new' concepts. Those are in turn taken and linked. Essentially, meme evolution... but we never just come up with a completely new idea.

Lateral thinking is just concepts linking in surprising ways (possibly some kind of random associated thought process connecting the two for just long enough)... or perhaps two concepts being activated simultaneously by different stimulie.

[mark_boyle2002]

"New Concepts".

And how do we come up with new concepts from old programming ?

[Wrayth]

Linking old concepts. Everything new is a step from something old, with some other old stuff added.

[mark_boyle2002]

Where did we learn the old concepts (note usage of word learn) and also on another tangent if man was the first thing on the planet as per adam and eve in the bible where the hell do these dinosaurs fit into it ?