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December 15th, 2003, 07:25 PM
#11
Originally posted here by nihil
[B]I do not see how "Irish Socialist" can be an oxymoron?
The Irish are a tribal and family people with quite closely knit communities, and A STRONG SENSE OF FAMILY.......they are similar to Celtic communities in Scotland and Wales. Politically Scotland and Wales are very socialist, this is not the case in Ireland (if you take things at face value), but this is explained by the Norman invasion (1172?) and the subsequent occupation and struggle for independence?
Well Ireland is very community driven I would agree with you there. As countries not invaded by the Romans, The Irish, Scots and Welsh have a distinct Celitc heritage and obviously a lot in common.
Ireland is dominated by Republican Catholic right wing parties due to the War of Independance which split Ireland between pro-treaty and anti-treaty parties. Dont want to get into Irish history, it gets damn complex especially politically and the main issue is still unresolved so its still a touchy area that is Northen Ireland.
You are correct in stating that Irelands struggle for independance has kept socialism down, its just not the major issue or political neccessity for want of a better word.
If you look at James Connolly who was a socialist for example, he died fighting in 1916 for an independant Ireland but would be shocked at the Ireland of today and how it is. His ideas shaped our constitution, thus we have socialist elements in there. If an Irish socialist is an oxymoron then his legacy is some kind of myth, he was Scottish though and on to another this time an Englishman James Larkin who organised the 1913 Lock-out in Ireland which brought Ireland to a halt with strikes, one of the great successes for socialism anywhere, we now have a tradition in Ireland of never passing a picket.
Morman is an idiot who resorts to petty generalisations due to his lack of historical knowledge and context. I would ignore his petty comments until he informs himself.
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December 15th, 2003, 11:33 PM
#12
Senior Member
ireland is mad kool i have never been there but i am like 45% irish so i hope to go there at some point in my life!
P-I-M-P 
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December 16th, 2003, 12:40 AM
#13
Regardless of political or religious persuasion:-
ireland is mad kool i have never been there but i am like 45% irish so i hope to go there at some point in my life!
.... is spoken by a complete frigging idiot......
What does your passport say Sunshine.... Do you have a passport? If you do it says you are a United States Citizen..... Nowhere on it does it mention Ireland. Not anywhere... search it as hard as you like you won't see Ireland on it!
[Rant]
You Americans spend so much time deciding, and bragging about, who you might have been had your ancestors _not_ emigrated that you fail to see the forest or the trees.... You are Americans..... Get USED to it..... you aren't English, French, German, Italian or anything other than AMERICANS...... But that's ok..... It's a fine country with fine people..... But you need to start remembering who the hell you are..... Your heritage is a wonderful thing that you should _never_ lose..... But be honest and proud.... You are an AMERICAN......
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Thank you for your time... you have been wonderful.... You will now be returned to "normal" programming.....
(and that wasn't humor, for those who like a good laugh.....)
Don\'t SYN us.... We\'ll SYN you..... 
\"A nation that draws too broad a difference between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and its fighting done by fools.\" - Thucydides
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December 16th, 2003, 01:05 AM
#14
Hey Tiger Shark
Since my ancestry is spread across most of Great Briton I like to refer to myself as an Atlantic Islander. But that's only during the census.
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December 16th, 2003, 09:01 PM
#15
MemorY...you fuking hippocrit....you are always flaming me about one liners..and then you do it..IN MY THREAD!...so dont fuking flame me ever again for one lining..
and im 100% irish...beat that!
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December 17th, 2003, 06:28 AM
#16
Hi Wanker,
Are you sure? Limerick and Dublin were viking settlements? you might only be around 80%? what county are you from...and your ancestors?
I can almost visualise the|specialist| taking a DNA swab from you.......bit late, but of scientific interest?
Merry Christmas
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December 17th, 2003, 07:30 AM
#17
ireland is mad kool i have never been there but i am like 45% irish so i hope to go there at some point in my life!
heh when i lived in the states i got this form loads of people who were all like - "oh I'm part Irish...yeah my great great great great great great great grandad's, sister's, nephew's, girlfriend's, dog stowed away on a boat that once stopped at Ireland!"
v_Ln
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December 17th, 2003, 08:29 PM
#18
no no...im 100 % realluy...ill get back to you withdetails..my tummy is growling
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December 18th, 2003, 04:32 AM
#19
Member
Nowadays, I think it would be hard to find anyone who was 100% anything. My grandmother came here from Germany, but I say I am an American, not "I am German".
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December 18th, 2003, 07:06 AM
#20
I'm 100% human. 
At least... when they ask me on forms, I choose "other" and write in "human".
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