Getting Linux, a few questions I'm sure someone could answer.

[jm459]

Originally posted here by C.Battery
assist people when I can by staying humble
Edit: Thanks Gore that did it right there.

Humility is a good attribute to have in your life

[C.Battery]

Lol.... Yes, I do know what X is actually. Second part was a joke to an extent, Gore is pretty good tho. Isnt X the Linux Desktop?

[jm459]

Originally posted here by gore
X and the word conform don't belong in the same sentence, ever.

X doesn't make you different, it makes you a WIMP

I think that gore's WIMP was implying Windows Icons Menus Pointing device, i.e GUI, which is totally different from command line operations in any O/S

[devpon]

If you are going to install slackware in the future, you might as well go with Slax for your live cd,
http://slax.linux-live.org/

As far as not being able to learn about linux, not able to use the command line while using a live cd, that is total bull sh*t. The only difference in using a live cd is that it will run slower than a hardrive installed distro. If you screw something up, just re-boot and you are ready to go again.

[poohsuntzu]

As far as not being able to learn about linux, not able to use the command line while using a live cd, that is total bull sh*t.

Unfortunatally you didn't read what I wrote.

I said that using the command line to make system configuration changes was impossible due to how livecd's were constructed. And that is true, for 99% of them.

SLAX uses the ovlfs file system and thus it is pseudo-reconfigurable, but not. It is closer to having a true Slackware OS, but still NOT a slackware installation. So, if you've ever read documentation on the ovlfs and ext3 filesystems you would have known that SLAX is an incredibly rare livecd distrubition as it allows temporary modifications to the filesystem structure, but at the great cost of features within the kernel.

So back off with your "bull ****" and read some documentation. The majority of livecd's are ENTIRLEY different than an installed OS on multiple levels.


Edit: And in case you think I'm talking out of my ass here-

http://thetao.sourceforge.net

My livecd was modeled after the ovlfs filesystem that SLAX uses, so I fully know and undertand it's limitations on the kernel capability and file system control.

[devpon]

Unfortunatally you didn't read what I wrote.

They won't be learning Linux. They will be learning an interface.

As far as not being able to learn about linux, not able to use the command line while using a live cd, that is total bull sh*t.

I am so sorry I mis-quoted you. I guess I didn't read is correctly.

pooh, for someone who has not tried linux, you are telling them not to use a live distro? That they cannot learn about linux without an installation? Sorry, but I have to disagree with your point on this one.

[;TT]

Originally posted here by devpon
I am so sorry I mis-quoted you. I guess I didn't read is correctly.

pooh, for someone who has not tried linux, you are telling them not to use a live distro? That they cannot learn about linux without an installation? Sorry, but I have to disagree with your point on this one.

READ!! The text doesn't go away, you're not understanding what he's saying.

[poohsuntzu]

No worries ;TT, him and I can agree to disagree

Now, since we've yet again smashed another topic by taking it off topic, let's just let it drop lol

[frpeter]

Hello,

I started with Slackware and haven't regretted it at all. Slack will definately give you a learning experience. I have to agree on the stability. Its package manager does make it easier for a newbie. I actually started with ZipSlack and ran it on a second hard drive to get my feet wet. Helped out alot. Also, be sure you take several trips to the Linux Documentation Project. You'll find that a lot of problems have answers and solutions already. Its a big help when you're trying to get X device to work.

One note I'll add here, I do use X for the graphical stuff, but not KDE, too much like M$. I use WindowMaker as my desktop environment. Its simple and small, plus it have many rich features. You'll find alot of other excellent environments by searching google though.

Good Luck.

[C.Battery]

.....They converted my help post into a laid back flame. Nice.