New site about security?

[Katja]

. o O (Of course there's a Wiki for cameltoe.)

And I thought you didn't want to talk about feet?

[Trevoke]

In regards to the original website, it looks pretty good.
It might save me the trouble of having to explain to my lusers what I mean when I say "You are retarded, please 10k RL, kkthx". Then again, I was addicted to EQ for four years, and that expression is not very widespread. *shrug*

In regards to the new topic: Give Katja some slack, will ya? People who have been in the IT field for 20+ years have acquired experience and wisdom; but unless they have the hacker mentality, they're old and rotten and useless. The new generation is never to be ignored.
Fine. So, half her life means about 9 years. So? Half my life means about 11 years, and it would mean I started looking at computers after she did, lifespan-wise. What does that mean? Nothing.
Don't underestimate someone just because they're young. Don't go nitpicking because english isn't her first language. It's not mine either.
By the way, please, use the word 'cracker' when referring to the authors of malicious acts. A hacker is nothing to be afraid of; although one who refers to oneself as a hacker is most likely a cracker (I will claim to have the hacker mentality, but not to be one).
An expert is someone whose voice is respected in a particular community/field. It's true that it's somewhat standoffish or arrogant to claim to be an expert, but sometimes that's just how it is.
I will claim to be an expert because I have done enough crap and broken enough boxes, software- and hardware-wise, to have learned how to fix 'em, troubleshoot the problem, and so on. It makes life easier to just use that word.
When it comes to programming, I'm not an expert. When it comes to sysadminning -- that's my *job*, and that's all I'll say about that.
But when it comes to playing on words -- I want to move on to become a lawyer, and that's all I'll say about that ;-)

[dalek]

Thought I would weigh in on this one.

There are a lot of very "Intelligent" people on this site, some of them may indeed be "experts" in their chosen profession. Myself I am mostly self taught from the Vic 20 days to now. Are you Arrogant I don't think so, "Snobbish" yes, and there is a difference. I work at a place of business which uses a Unix Server for 30 desktops using Winxp Pro, aside from calling in Unix support (CSD $125.00 an hr that's an expert) I have been designated the company IT support staff all by myself, me alone, just moi.The reason is because I love PC's and have since the early times (so to the idiot who thinks people with 20+ yrs of PC experience are old and useless bugger off) and as a a result am able to troubleshoot most problems we get. (maximize the window, etc)

The problem with this is everyone comes to expect you to be the "Expert" and when something goes wrong they call you, however, and I have caught myself at this (and I feel bad afterwards) you show up to troubleshoot and it is a simple problem, so you tsk tsk, roll your eyes and basically without saying as much, call them an idiot, and you can tell that if they could find a hole big enough they would crawl ino it. So if you are not careful and let the "expert" tag balloon over your head, the users will not be so forthcoming in either calling you for help, or worse yet, try the fix themselves.

Also with the "expert" tag a lot more is expected of you, so you had better be more right then wrong

Just my "Soapbox" for the day, but don't get discouraged a half expert is better then no expert, just don't flaunt it.

[My SuperMan Ego]

In regards to the new topic: Give Katja some slack, will ya? People who have been in the IT field for 20+ years have acquired experience and wisdom; but unless they have the hacker mentality, they're old and rotten and useless. The new generation is never to be ignored.

Someone 19 and up yet is still on this hacker this and that trip... now thats sad.

By the way, please, use the word 'cracker' when referring to the authors of malicious acts. A hacker is nothing to be afraid of; although one who refers to oneself as a hacker is most likely a cracker (I will claim to have the hacker mentality, but not to be one). An expert is someone whose voice is respected in a particular community/field. It's true that it's somewhat standoffish or arrogant to claim to be an expert, but sometimes that's just how it is.

I can do some fairly mundane computer related tasks too yet you'll never see me tossing buzzwords like that around. If you have a real interest in computers then umm... shut the **** up?

Katja, why do you feel the need to separate yourself from people you clearly think are below you... because of the ability to press buttons on a computer? You sit here and basicly insult your own family because of it too when the funny thing about it is... most people here including myself agree that your not very bright at all actually. If there is something that separates you and these so called "end-users" you keep talking about... then clearly the line is alot more slim than you may be willing to admit.

[Katja]

ego, you still haven't answered my question about how much a person needs to know before they can consider themselves an expert.
If being an expert depends on the average knowledge of the people around me then yes, I'm a computer expert. It's that simple. I might not be the best expert in this world. Or in my country. I might not even be the best expert in my family but I cannot ignore the fact that I have quite a lot of experience.

Is it arrogant to call myself aan expert. Maybe it is. Or maybe too many people have already referred to me as "Katja the Expert" that I've started to believe it myself.

[My SuperMan Ego]

Im not talking about being an expert at anything... im asking how many brain cells need to be lost in order to reach the status of "end-user" to someone as dumb as you are.