Roberto Calderoli: Bravest Man Alive!

[dalek]

One more thing Dalek, let's not forget what type of dialogue and diplomacy we used with Iraq. I believe we gave Saddam 72 hours to get out of Iraq or go to war. Wow, now that's some good choices there. I'd like to see what would happen if China or Russia told Bush he had 72 hours to get out or go to war.

Maybe you should go back a few more years in time and read up on the UN sanctions that were imposed after the first Gulf War, saying he only had 72hrs is a little bit hazy at best, he had 10 freaking years to straighten up or it was curtains...

Ethanol get rid of your SUV now......

Anyone who puts up a form of resistance isn't a coward in my book.

So you actually sympathise with the "terrorists" because that is what they are, they are not so called "Freedom Fighter's" if they were, why didn't they do this when Saddam was in power, you know why, because these are the very same scum that used to do his dirty work...

On a side note, I would just like to add that even if you do not agree with Islam or the Quran, I'd hope that you could at least read it, or a part of it, and try to grasp it's ideas and concepts before you go bashing it.

I am not bashing their holy book, I am bashing it's proponents who use it to qualify their hatred against any who do not conform to it's teachings, so do not try to twist my words to suite your purposes, as for an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, this is exactly what is wrong when revenge is a motivation to justify violence in the name of any book, as for reading it, why would I? it has nothing in it that would appeal to me, as for reading it to understand Islam, I will rely on what the rational leaders of this religion will explain to me, not your version which is fanaticism.....

[Evil Moo]

Tsk tsk. You adults with your kooky supersitions and "mature" variants of Santa and Tooth Fairies.

I forgot whom said it, or the exact words but, "There is too much in this word to worry about the next." I think that may have been Ghandi, not sure.

I'm young, no doubt about that. I'm interested in this world, not the next. Please leave your holy wars on their respective planes; this is my realm of existance--thank you very much. I have no problem if you wish entry to Heavan, but please don't make my Earth a Hell in the process.

If you guys can't play nice, I'm going to respark the Nihilist movement of the early 1900s and destroy you all.

Now if you'll excuse me, those jelly-beans on the other side of my room seem to be offering me more insights to happiness and life than any silly book written by the world's greatest of practical jokers.

[MURACU]

Children of the Book?

He must be talking about the hitch hikers guide to the galaxy. That is about the only book that says anything usefull about religion in my opinion.

[rcgreen]

the only book that says anything usefull about religion in my opinion.

I don't know. All that 42 business sounds very troubling, bordering on the heretical.
I'm surprised it made it past the censors.

[dalek]

I wonder if this got much air time over in the Middle East...

Life of Brian is essentially a classic farce and is eloquently summed up by Brian's mother (played by Terry Jones) saying, "He's not the messiah; he's a very naughty boy". This notwithstanding, the film is variously seen as a critique of excessive religiosity, a satire depicting organised and popular religion as a racket involving hypocrisy and zealotry, a sacrilegious film "deserving censorship", or just a very funny movie.

It also pokes fun at revolutionary groups by featuring several factions that are nominally protesting against the Roman occupation of Judea, but are in fact more at loggerheads with one another (examples include 'The Judean People's Front', 'The People's Front of Judea', and (with only one member) 'The Judean Popular People's Front')[1]. According to the DVD commentary, this part of the story is a satire on the multiplication of ineffectual left-wing parties in Britain in the 1970s. These revolutionary groups would splinter every few weeks and would be angrier at each other than they were at the British government.

The film contains all members of Monty Python in multiple roles, and also features cameos by Spike Milligan (who happened to be on holiday in Tunisia where the filming was taking place), and George Harrison (without whom the film would not have been made — since Harrison set up Handmade Films to help fund it after the subject matter scared off the original backers, EMI). Chris Langham also appears as a centurion.

Either by accident or design, several characters are never named during the film, although they do have names which are used in the tracklisting for the soundtrack album and elsewhere. There is no mention of the fact that Eric Idle's ever-cheerful joker is called "Mr. Cheeky", that the terribly well-meaning Roman guard played by Michael Palin is (aptly) named "Nisus Wettus", or that Brian's mother (Terry Jones) is named "Mandy".

The movie's critical moment seems to be when Brian speaks to a large crowd of his followers:

Brian: Look, you've got it all wrong! You don't NEED to follow ME, You don't NEED to follow ANYBODY! You've got to think for yourselves! You're ALL individuals!

The Crowd: Yes! We're all individuals!

Brian: You're all different!

The Crowd: Yes, we ARE all different!

Man in crowd: I'm not...

The Crowd: Shhhh!

I think all Islamist's should be made to watch this movie, I don't recall christians rising up and demanding Cleese and company be beheaded for blaspheme.....and this was in 1979, there is some reading on this... IMHO, this movie sums it all up....(I still think the hermit is the real messiah.... ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_P..._Life_of_Brian

[Egaladeist]

This thread still kicking

I understand why some people take their religion seriously, and they have every right to...but to expect people who do not believe the same to show the same reverence is ridiculous.

the difference between a fanatic and a believer...is a fanatic expects others to convert and/or behave and show the same reverence as if they believed...even against their own will.

Because it is the will of their god.

Whether there is a god or not...the world would be better off without any gods.

We simply are not advanced enough to properly deal with the concept of god in a world full of gods.

Eg