Windows Xp PRO Problems

[Cheap Scotch Ron]

both westin and mlf are correct.

i find that even if i try to clean things up, i need to do a reinstall every 6 months or so. it's suspect its because i install and eval alot of software. Even if I uninstall, it still seems to bog down. If this is the case with you, i would suggest you take westin's advice and reinstall.

If you have run the usual cleaners and av checks, you might try to defrag your disk. you also might check to see what services are running and disable things you dont need. There are some decent links on what services you can do without. e.g. http://beemerworld.com/tips/servicesxp.htm

For a sure cure, install a small linux dist.

CSR

[cross]

Another tip for avoiding the 6 month reinstall (which I do as well) is to create a windows image or backup once you have your computer up and have all your software installed. This way, instead of having to format, and install drivers, and install apps/games, etc, you can just load up your image, and go.

Of course you'll want to keep your documents and personal stuff on a different partition / drive.

[Slartarama]

System restore is turned off. I dont like to use it cos you get mem resident viruses.

True, but it has saved my bacon on so many PCs compared to the few that have had virus/malware infections, that I swear by it. Of course all those restore points go away when you have to disable it to clean out a virus, but it's been worth having on and getting a "do over!" on many a PC.

Man, I don't know. I do reinstall from time to time, but not as any part of a general maintenance program. Usually I hose something from tinkering, but my gaming PC at home hasn't been reinstalled in quite some time.


Try another HDD if you have a spare.

[IKnowNot]

I think XP needs to be reinstalled at least once a year. :P

No, actually it doesn't.
It just needs a lot of attention!

The box I am on right now is XP pro installed when it first came out. Never re-installed in any fashion, although I did a hard drive change two years ago: I did a disk copy of the original disk rather then a re-install. ( not to mention replaced video card, motherboard, processor, power supply, DVD burner, ..., at one time or another. ) And I can not imagine how many programs I have installed then deleted.

bradlesliect, if this was all of a sudden I would error on the side of caution and BACK-UP everything and then run diagnosis on the hard drive, as previously suggested.
A good idea in any event.

Since you already decided to do a re-install I guess it is moot, but I would consider a few things:

1) there is no one program that will fix all problems
I use anti-virus, regularly run adware and spyware cleaners, reg cleaners, etc.

2) IBID
Not only do you need a versatile toolbox, but many of the tools will yield further results in SAFE mode.

3) Occasionally Defrag
When defrging, make sure the system is stable, then turn off system restore and pagefile
( don't forget to turn them back on afterwards )

4) The more RAM the better
XP used to run fine on 512M ( Vista really needs 2G )
If you are running an anti-virus program, they have grown out of necessity and blot ( added services they think you need ) , so nowadays 1G is minimum.

5) NO program can clean the system as well as a well trained person with the right tools
This may take a little explanation.
This is especially true of reg cleaners, but also applies to spyware cleaners. All too often I have found cleaners saying a program or reg entry is invalid or dangerous when in fact it is needed. You have to know your system if you are going to use these tools. ( example: Norton Utilities, 2002 I think, run from CD, always tries to delete the reg entry for several HP files it can not find. If I allow it to delete these entries the programs that installed these entries cease to work. )

Westin - I have done all apart from Spybot.

Don't forget that Spybot has a tools menu that is extremely helpful, and can supplement what you find in Hyjack-This.
The Windows System Information tool, especially the Software Environment can be extremely helpful in identifying rouge files that are started by some improperly uninstalled programs.

Alright, here is a trick I got from some Microsoft KB article about Ghost Devices.
These build up over time and you can not see them, but they may cause problems, at the very least slow down start-up:
NOTE — this must be done as administrator –

a. Click Start, point to All Programs, point to Accessories, and then click Command Prompt. ( you can use the run-as command here )
b. At a command prompt, type the following command , and then press ENTER:
set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
c. Type the following command a command prompt, and then press ENTER:
start devmgmt.msc
d. Troubleshoot the devices and drivers in Device Manager.

NOTE: You will have to click Show Hidden Devices on the View menu in Device Managers before you can see devices that are not connected to the computer.
e. When you finish troubleshooting, close Device Manager.
f. Type exit at the command prompt.

6) Don't forget those EVENT Logs!

*** Again, you have to know your system to use these effectively!

For any admin these steps are way too time consuming for a multiple computer system; a re-install or ghost image is much easier and less time consuming ( thus cost effective for the bosses! )

But for a single user, it may indeed help from having to locate all those original install disks and a marathon session to re-install, and may, ( as in my case ) keep your spouse off your back!

Just my thoughts.

[SirDice]

No, actually it doesn't.
It just needs a lot of attention!

I agree, my laptop is about 5-6 years old now. Still running the same install that came with it.

[nihil]

I agree with SD and co.

I built this thing in 2001/2 when XP was pre-service pack, and I have not reinstalled since.

If you are having problems with a clean install that is only a few months old, I would suggest that you have a hardware issue.

[Info_Au]

Remove AVG.

Same symptoms happened to me 2-4 weeks ago.
It was just after an update that things slowed to a crawl.
I thought my internet had been cut to 56K and my mouse would jerk around the screen.

Now use Comodo.

4 years without reformatting....living on the edge.

[Linen0ise]

1. Destroy the page file and then recreate. Do a cold boot.
2. Turn off anything that scans itself for a remote upgrade.
3. Make sure your AV is not scanning every file coming down the pipe.
4. let your computer HDD and\or database defrag overnight.

[bradlesliect]

Thats it! This machine is going to get a fdisk, format, reinstall..... I'VE HAD IT!!! Why does one have to struggle like this? I have none of these issues with linux stuff.... AAARRGGHH!!!

one more thing I can try for giving it the kick....how about using Hiren's or Ultimate Boot CD to do some hardware and reg checks? you think it will find anythin?

[Negative]

First thing I always do with a fresh XP (and Vista, too) install: Control Panel --> System --> Advanced --> Performance --> Settings --> Adjust for best performance. That usually speeds things up significantly.