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April 13th, 2009, 11:13 PM
#1
Junior Member
Obama agrees with Bush on wiretapping?
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04...orse-than-bush
In Warrantless Wiretapping Case, Obama DOJ's New Arguments Are Worse Than Bush's
Commentary by Tim Jones
I'll just CnP the headline. Click link for the rest of the story. Discuss? (If a repost then my bad, I didn't see this topic anywhere)
I'm highly against wiretapping. I'm sure that Bush meant well with this law, but his intentions with this law will not stop rogue politicians from using this law for personal gain. I need only point out the infamous J. Edgar Hoover & the way he used the power of the FBI to get "dirt" on every politician only to black mail these guys with the info.
fyi me = Libertarian to answer a few questions
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April 14th, 2009, 02:55 PM
#2
Yeah, I liked Ron Paul too.
The problem with him was that no one above the age of thirty heard of the guy. Most of his supporters where first time voters who likely sat around when they should have voted.
I'm sure that Bush meant well with this law
That might be a beleaveable hoax... if he didn't declare himself "the decider" and acted like an overall jackass to anyone and everyone who bothered to pay attention to the antics.
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April 14th, 2009, 06:44 PM
#3
It's an especially disappointing argument to hear from the Obama Administration. As a candidate, Senator Obama lamented that the Bush Administration "invoked a legal tool known as the 'state secrets' privilege more than any other previous administration to get cases thrown out of civil court." He was right then, and we're dismayed that he and his team seem to have forgotten.
LOL, I think the word he is searching for is "hypocrisy".
No politician, after obtaining power, ever willingly relinquishes any
of that power. I always said that the worst part of Bush's actions
was the fact that this power would be inherited by those who follow
him. Bush himself can do no more damage, but each new power usurped by
government remains as a weapon in the hands of whoever gets
elected.
I came in to the world with nothing. I still have most of it.
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April 14th, 2009, 08:12 PM
#4
The problem with him was that no one above the age of thirty heard of the guy. Most of his supporters where first time voters who likely sat around when they should have voted.
Not true. At least here in NJ. In fact, most of the people I know here that support Ron Paul and his principles are over the age of 40.
The young sheep here in NJ just love Obama because he's gonna save them all.
In God We Trust....Everything else we backup.
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April 21st, 2009, 12:46 AM
#5
Junior Member
 Originally Posted by The-Spec
Yeah, I liked Ron Paul too.
The problem with him was that no one above the age of thirty heard of the guy. Most of his supporters where first time voters who likely sat around when they should have voted.
That might be a beleaveable hoax... if he didn't declare himself "the decider" and acted like an overall jackass to anyone and everyone who bothered to pay attention to the antics.
heard of him, voted for him & I'm 43. You are right though, it's mostly the younger crowd who likes Ron Paul.
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