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    @Nihil: Yes we would have to do some testing with it , I merely talking for a personal viewpoint. Business is different
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    Looks like MS have released a updated dev build of ie10 .

    http://connect.microsoft.com/ie

    off course you won't be able to install on XP although i did give it a good attempt

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    Yep, like I said, that's the one I used to start this thread

    Incidentally, I did not see a download for IE10 on its own........ only as part of Win8 developer Preview???

    Otherwise it is IE9, that works with Vista and Win7, but not XP. We had a thread about that a while back, but I am afraid that I have forgotten the technical details

    This is the new crashtest dummy (#3)................

    AMD Sempron 145 2.8GHz single core
    Asus Radeon 5570 1GB DDR3 (PCI-E x16)
    Kingston VM 4GB DDR2/800MHz Dual Channel
    1TB 7,200rpm SATA2 HDD

    I guess that will be a low end machine when Win8 hits the shelves?

    I seems to work just fine, and is noticeably faster than the 10 year old 32 bit Athlon 3000+.

    Windows Experience Index is 4.6/7.9 which is twice that of the 32 bit machine Raw scores are:

    Processor: 4.6
    Memory: 5.8
    Graphics (Aero) 6.7
    Graphics Gaming: 6.7
    HDD: 5.9

    The 32 bit machine scored:

    Processor: 2.9
    RAM: 4.0
    Graphics (Aero): 2.3
    Graphics Gaming: 3.0
    HDD: 5.7

    Already posted; but for completeness the H/W specs are:

    AMD Athlon 3000+ 2.17GHz single core
    NVIDIA GeForce 6200 512MB DDR2 (AGP slot)
    512MB DDR1/400 + 1GB DDR1/333 (MoBo only supports 400 in slot 0)
    7,200rpm EIDE(PATA) HDD

    Right now it appears to me that Win8 is just an enhanced version of Win7 so I am thinking that the comparison would be Win98 to Win98SE, and don't see any particular reason to hold back?

    I will get back to reporting on the main x64 test box once I have fitted a video card............... got to resite the HDD to fit it in!!! It's an Asus Radeon HD 6770 with heatpipe cooling..............good job it's a full ATX MoBo.

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    I should be getting my new PC's / laptops some time this week/next week. Already got everything ordered and now just waiting for the Insurance Company to release the money so i can pay the account and pickup all my new goodies.

    Then i can re-download the .iso and give it a play.

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    Hi there HYBR|D, glad to hear someone else is going to join in.

    My main interest so far has been the hardware requirements and compatibility, as I have some kit I built 1999~2002 that has reached the end of its useful life and needs upgrading.

    I guess I have never been much of a one for upgrading operating systems other than the obvious Win95 - Win98 and ME - XP. All that was really needed there was to increase the RAM to 1GB for XP.

    I would certainly upgrade Vista to Win 7 or 8 apart from the fact that I need one reference machine for support purposes.

    At the moment, I don't see any real incentive to upgrade Win 7 as it is a pretty good OS. If your kit runs Vista OK then I would live with it and just get a new box when support ends in 2015.

    I have now completed my main x64 test machine as follows:

    AMD Phenom II x4 965BE @ 3.4GHz
    Asus Radeon HD 6770 1GB DDR5
    8GB Kingston Xtreme DDR3/1333MHz
    2TB SATA3 HDD

    The scores are:

    Processor 7.4
    Memory 7.5
    Graphics (Aero) 7.2
    Graphics (games) 7.2
    HDD 5.9

    I must say that I am a little suspicious of the HDD scores?

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    Nihil; Do you upgrade ALL of your hardware, or do you keep some of it to run legacy / fun stuff on?

    I saw you saying you had kit from the end of 1999 to early 2000s that needed upgrading, and I was mainly wondering if you upgrade everything, or, if you keep some of it around the way it is.

    I personally can't really afford to get any new toys right now, and the Computer my Mom bought me for Christmas two years ago is the newest / fastest thing I have. The rest, I've kept anyway.

    My very first Computer that I ever bought is actually stick chugging long somehow. Oddly enough, I bought that Computer in 2000, and the ONLY thing I've done with the hardware, is back when I bought it, it came with 128 MBs of RAM, and I upgraded that to 384 MBs, and then, I bought a 120 GB HD about 7 or so years ago, and then, I grabbed the 43 GB HD it came with, made it secondary, and made the new one the master, and the / partition, and now use the old one as /storage. This way if it goes on me, it won't matter so much.

    Oh and I ripped out the ****ing POS "Sound Card Modem" the damn thing came with. I couldn't Believe someone had an idea to make a Modem with the Sound Card built into it..... So I bought a Sound Blaster Live! Card and popped that in. Other than that, it's all original, and all still up and running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nihil View Post
    Hi there HYBR|D, glad to hear someone else is going to join in.

    My main interest so far has been the hardware requirements and compatibility, as I have some kit I built 1999~2002 that has reached the end of its useful life and needs upgrading.

    I guess I have never been much of a one for upgrading operating systems other than the obvious Win95 - Win98 and ME - XP. All that was really needed there was to increase the RAM to 1GB for XP.

    I would certainly upgrade Vista to Win 7 or 8 apart from the fact that I need one reference machine for support purposes.

    At the moment, I don't see any real incentive to upgrade Win 7 as it is a pretty good OS. If your kit runs Vista OK then I would live with it and just get a new box when support ends in 2015.

    I have now completed my main x64 test machine as follows:

    AMD Phenom II x4 965BE @ 3.4GHz
    Asus Radeon HD 6770 1GB DDR5
    8GB Kingston Xtreme DDR3/1333MHz
    2TB SATA3 HDD

    The scores are:

    Processor 7.4
    Memory 7.5
    Graphics (Aero) 7.2
    Graphics (games) 7.2
    HDD 5.9

    I must say that I am a little suspicious of the HDD scores?
    Those HDD scores are BS though??? I have 2 x IDE , 2 X Sata on my windows 7 box and I get 5.9 with IDE, so how are u not getting 6 + atleast??

    Unless they are wanted SSD's to break 6.5 + ?
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    Depends on what RPM the drives are pulling. low rpm drives get a lower score, were as though top end very expensive drives that have huge transfer speeds will get a high score.

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    @Cider:

    Well, I did build me a Windows 7 x64 Ultimate box a little while back...............

    AMD Phenom II x6 1090T BE @ 3.2~3.6GHz
    8GB Kingston DDR3/1333MHz
    Sapphire Radeon HD5770 1GB DDR5
    Onboard Radeon 4250 512MB DDR3
    2x WD 1TB 7200rpm SATA2 HDDS

    Scores are:

    Processor 7.5
    Memory 7.5
    Graphics (Aero) 7.4
    Graphics (Games) 7.4
    HDD 5.9

    Yet the 10 year old 7200rpm EIDE drive scores 5.7 on Win 8 against 5.9 for a 7200rpm SATA2????????????? or SATA3............... I don't believe that or their management software must be total crap?

    //me I don't think that it can count more than 5.9?

    @gore

    Nihil; Do you upgrade ALL of your hardware, or do you keep some of it to run legacy / fun stuff on?
    Mostly I keep them. These are ones that have issues.........mostly the MoBo capacitors. That is a pretty common problem with MoBos of that era. I have shuffled around the HDDs and video cards so the surviving "old" machines have the best stuff and the rest is available for spares.

    I have a fair collection of parts to keep my stuff working, but not MoBos.

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    It can count a bit higher. My Vertex 3 drive scores a respectable 7.0 when connected to a sata 2 controller. I wonder what it will do on a sata 3 controller.


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