Originally posted here by accessoveride
well mankan ,dont feel bad about reddie points,i got them too .now u see what i mean, u get flamed 4 speaking u r mind.im not anti goverment,cause its cool ,im anti goverment cause im mad as hell and tired of their lies,and totaly screwing us all over,im tired of america being the cops of the world[we handel every1s problems but our own,llok at vietnam,we had no busness at all over there,or bosnia..........and who pays 4 it NOT THEM OF COURSE,but the avrage joe.AND AS FAR AS DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT ,IT JUST FALLS ON DEFF EARS,THEY DONT WANT TO HEAR IT ALL,simply THEY DONT CARE.AND DRAZIW I AGREE WITH YOU ON MANY POINTS U MADE,like how they pull apaint chip out their asses and go bust some1 4 it ,WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT THE ONLY TIME THEY TAKE ACTION IS WHEN IT PISSES THEM OFF ,OTHER WISE THEY DONT CARE,WHAT HAPPENS TO ME OR U .WE ARE JUST A NUMBER HERE TO THEM,LIKE I SAID BEFORE JUSTICE ,IS JUST US CAUSE IT APPLYS TO ONLY US AVRAGE JOES.they tell us nothing till it leaks out then they decide to tell us what they want .andf u are right ,we shouldnt have to be afraid of our goverment,and free thought does get blurred as time goes on.ANY WAY MANKAN IM NOT BEING RACIST AT ALL ,U CAN CHANGE BLACK TO JEW OR WHAT EVER IF U ARE DIFFRENT IN ANY WAY HERE U ARE SCREWED,AND AS FAR AS KEEPING MY SPIT TO MY SELF,I SAID IT TO PROVE A POINT,AND IM SORRY FRIEND IF U DIDNT SEE THAT POINT,MABE U SHOULD COME TO AMERICA AND WALK A MILE OR 2 IN OUR SHOES,AND MABE U WILL SEE WHAT I MEAN.inmy city in america cops and crack dealers are the same people,here i got a better 1 4 u ,the mayor of washington d.c was convicted 4 doing crack,does that tell u something .do really want some rich crack head in power ,to run u r life ,to help make u r laws.how would u feel if in sweden if some crack head in office was running u r life[scary isnt it ].kahless720 is right in an aspest[ freedom is slavery ,and war can make peace,but ignorance isnt strenght].WELL AS FAR AS HACKING GOES ,FROM WHAT I KNOW THERE IS 3 KINDS OF HACKERS,1 BLACK HAT HACKERS these are people who make viri ,bump off cash machines,and who will eventually allllllllllot of time in jail 2 GREAY HAT HACKERS people who make viri screw up cpus and try to have harmless fun,and sometimes help friends with their screwed up cps.3 WHITE HAT HACKERS people who help get rid of viri,make anti viri programs like ceo of antionline jp,but some of these people help [OUR SO LOVING GOVERMENT]sweep the goverment dirt under the rug ,so we the people dont see their lies . IM SORRY IF I OFFENDED ANY1 HERE [THAT ISNT WHAT IM TRYING TO DO AT ALL]BUT I DONT CARE IF EVERY1 OF YOU GIVE ME ANTIPOINTS, I WONT BE SILENCED, I EVEN DONT CARE IF YOU ALL GET ME BANNED ON ANTIONLINE,I WILL JUST COME BACK ON ANOTHER ADDY AND ANOTHER NAME,AND SPEAK MY MIND[WHICH IS UNDER MY SUPPOSED RIGHTS AS AN AMERICAN].IVE HAD MANY IM'S AND MAIL SAYING IM PARANOID,CRAZY,OR A RADICAL FROM MANY OF YOU .IF YOU HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY JUST TYPE .......NULL INPUT


ACCESSOVERIDE
Ok, I understand what you're saying but what I still can't understand is your alienated view on the government. You talk about "them", as some far distant abstraction of something when it in fact is very much real and just around your corner. This is your government. Elected by your country. I think it's a pity if you've given up on makeing a difference because you think your protests will fall on deaf ears.

About walking in your shoes. I've been to the states four times. Two of them were a couple of years back when I was invoved with the International Alliance of Guardian Angels and I spend about a month in New York for leadership training and stuff. Anyway, I found the cops of New York far nicer and more service minded than any police officer I've ever met in Stockholm.

If we found a government representative smoking crack he'd be kicked out of office faster that he can say "innocent". We do it all the time. We kick them out when they buy appartments even though they vote aginst selling apartments to the highest bidder, when they fall in love with each other, when they buy private stuff on their representative card and so on. I'm not kidding. Five or six people have had to go from our current government because they misbehavied.

A quick not to indolent: That is why we have media. Medias most importent function in any democratic stat is to investigate the government.

Anyway, I'm really enjoying this discussion.