Well get here when I can, but then I move at my pace have nothing to prove really. Just do my job 8 hrs go home to a couple kids and wife. Better put eldest son a Master in fine art looks weird perices in places I'm afraid to ask, younger two have not hit their stride. So http://www.archive.org/ cause I am from there. Lets see JP has a great site go way back at the URL. To all the women..girrl's..gonna never be correct...cause thee was a site when about 10 where about out here..check out back issues of Wired can catch the webmaster pants downs LOL. So all a part of my history (and I hate the subject)..but remember it cause it if I forget then it may be repeated :-) do not like then ( | ) or @>--->-->--------- tel your Mom happy Mothersv Day!