I'm gonna sit back Neg and Conf1 you are senior members you two posted the thread so Senior Members tell me of the cultures you know the people how you arrive at your logic me I'm a senior also not in points but in life as unfair as it can be so teach an old dog a new trick. What did I miss in my life time of travel, people, food and drink? What do you do to make the world better for everyone? Understand WTF I just said if not go talk to your grandparent.