Well had a real kitchen fire is out so is summer vacation. Anyway just threw stuff out need to post the oops thread given the fact the room was started by a member. Was it a complaint thing about negs nope more about keeping the quality of the AO site and members that may hold few points pointed out a valid concern. Just look at negs to your post as a way to learn more if the neg goes beyond I'm tired of your BS. Neg someone stand up say why as well as a + point say why. Am off to delete the thread now and oh social engineering works many ways me my thing is what is a profiler Learned much about posts here. Thanks All