Originally posted here by ashbourn
That would be funny if there was a god there is no proof other then a long story book called the bible. Jesus was one of a few 100 peeps at that time who claimed he was the son of god or god or claimed something like that. He was just the one who got followers who got peeps to wright about him and pass it around till there was this big book by tons of peeps who all wanted a peace of the pie then got peeps to to follow them and so on and so on. I think I got off topic again.
don’t kill me on the Negs here but here's my rant.......

OK SO this is totally simplistic thinking. If you believe the bible is a story book then you have not done any research into the historical accuracy of the bible and all of its writing. There are many texts that point to references with in the text that are documents as truth. The book was writing by 66 men over a period of centuries. The Old Testament has hundreds of claims about Jesus that where made hundreds of years prior to his birth. All of which have come true in the historical documents of his life.

OK so many of you state there are other ways to 'get to heaven’ you all maybe right. I am not God and I do not know his mind or thoughts. I do know there are major difference between Christianity and every other religious faith. Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Islam (please pardon my spelling I am just too tired to the typing right) all claim to be the way to God. And the way you get the is my a human endeavor. You have to earn your 'right' to be there. Christianity is the only faith where God provides for his people though grace and forgiveness. It is a God thing, rather then a man thing. Is this the only way? Like I mentioned I am not God and I do not know his mind.

People state, if there is a God why did he do this or do that or allowed that to happen; Why didn't he stop the terrorism on 9/11 or other bad things. Because God is sovereign. He has given man free will and the ability to choose his way in this realm. He allows men to make the choice that are evil. Because of sin or disobedience from God there is sin, God can not look at sin no matter what it is. This is the way the universe has been set up. So there needed to be a way to over come the sin since man could not do it on his own. That is where Jesus Christ comes into the picture. He provided the payment for the sin and all you have to do is accept the payment and allow the grace to extend to you life. simple yes. Easy to do no

Jesus is the only one person in this world that has caused so much controversy. Religion is the one hottest debated issues forever... all of life revolves around it in one way or another. From the calendar to day to day life and you are going to sit there and state the bible is a story book.... You have not done the research and i frankly if you don’t like what I am saying then prove me wrong.... GO do the research I am open to it.... but get all the stuff get both side... find the flaws in the arguments... There are men of greater minds then all of us here who have.....and this has been debates for eons.....

Originally posted here by Ennis
If Jesus returned he would be put in a madhouse.

In Northen Ireland Religion has caused enough death to turn me into an atheist.
OK I can see this. The trouble with most Christain is many of them feel like they have to have it all right in the details of how they go about the specific worship. Too many people worry about the details of it and not the generalities. The generalities are more important

And as far as the mad house thing. C.S. Lewis makes this statement in his book Mere Christianity, "A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic - on the level with a man who says he is a poached egg - or he would be the devil of hell. You must take your choice. Either this was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us."

Atheist mean you do not believe in a God at all. Well you can not know for certain there is no God because you would have to have all knowledge to know that. So what you might be saying is you are a agnostic, that you don't know if there is or isnt a God but at this point in your life you choose not to follow God. there are distinction in what you are saying. With all the proof in science for a greater organized universe... you have more faith then I. Many nodel prize winning scientists are now stating there has to be some outside force the organized our world because the odds of it being the way it is are just too great. They talk about the big bang theory. stating in the begining of the universe there was nothing and something made it all come together....ok right I believe this.... there is no error in the theory here. There is something greater then all of us...that transcended this universe we live in an know...It is called GOD...

Originally posted here by owen76
Maybe the followers should act more like what they are following...
This is totally right follower should act more like what they are following.....This is totally 110% true.... But we are all human and you need to cut some people some slack. you should first look at how you are acting and what you are standing for before pointing to another claiming they are not standing up for what they think or believe...

Originally posted here by Ennis
If you make a structure seem serious enough people are inclined to believe in it no matter how odd the ideology. This applies best to the Catholic church. It also worked for Hitler who managed to convince his followers in many a bizarre, stupid thing.
Please don't tell me you are comparing Jesus Christ to Hitler here... Give me a break...



Ok enough of the ranting.....