Ok I will have to re-confirm some things but well I usually update my systems last. I did some Win updates ok some over a year old after I installed the newest version of Ad-Ware. Funny after the M$ released patches I had 13 hidden spyware programs, Bright Digital all over the place, pesky Cydoor also several places, doubleclick few others. But this can be one of two things even Ad-ware has spyware attached or that M$ has in some vague terms in their update EULA's said but not informed me a way I can understand that 3rd parties spy-ware are now included in their patches? Oh this system my sons Win98 PIII 1.5 gig last scan of the system was yesterday Win updates today. Anyone want to load the latest version of Ad-ware do a scan and then updat Win 98 SE see what is installed as spyware?