Originally posted here by souleman
This was forwarded to me.
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A friendly FYI (please forward to souleman if possible as his name was mentioned too)

I tried an interesting experiment today….I negged six people (all of whom seem to have ties to JRoc) with the same comment…”death to the alliance” and of course got very interesting responses. The people I negged were spyder32, ratman2, 1pizzaluvr4u, ebo, HurrayForSchool, and tedob1. The responses I got were “…” (minimal AP damage), “**** you god damnit” (perhaps a minus 8 or 9), and “Death to YOUR alliance you sick ****, and tell Neg and So [note: this got cut off, but I assume it was.... "Souleman they are next" based on some antipoints I recently got]

Now, I wasn’t aware that we had an alliance, and I’m pretty sure that this probably is news to you also. We may have exchanged information and suspicions, but to my knowledge we have not entered into a point swapping arrangement at any time.

Why these people? As you know, I got to know JRoc a bit before the banning of his JCHosting persona. During that time he admitted to me that he, ratman and tedob were good friends and all live close to each other in New Jersey. He also asked me to keep this a secret (not a good indicator of virtuous character). He also has bragged that he still has major AP “pull” and is responsible for the rise of tedob1 to his current AP status. As for the [note: again this got cut off. It was sent to me in IRC, the original message wasn't forwarded to me, so obviously somehow small parts got removed]

I know that JP just really doesn’t want to hear about this crap, so I figure that talking to him is not an option. However, it might relieve the situation if he were to remove the ‘top ten’ AP list from the main page, OR convert it to a ‘top twenty’ list to get some of the heat off the rest of us. I know you guys are getting the **** negged out of you too, and so is debwalen.

I’m taking a week off and going to the beach, and I have no doubt that by the time I return I’ll be off the top ten list (sigh of relief). If you can think of any other ways we might be able to solve this conundrum, by all means let’s hear your ideas! Seeya in about a week!!
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again, everything above this point was forwarded to me. I am not going to the beach, no matter how much I wish I was.
Sorry for quoting this again, I didn't understand it last time. The only person I've ever remotely told any form of a secret to and that he backstabbed me was allenb1963. it's clear as day that it was him, and I'm actually pissed off. He is very untrustworthy and it's really upsetting. However, he has made a mistake. I NEVER said Ratman live's in NJ and I NEVER said I "helped get tedob1 to the top" nor have I done that either. That is stupid as hell and annoying. I don't have "ap pull" and that would be another false accusation. Allenb1963: You might have tried a stupid ass experiment by abusing the ap system, but it was pointless and dumb. Also, and people probably will agree, that you tried an experiment and negged people for no reason other than your little experiment. They didn't deserve the neg's and you negged them not just because of the experiment, but because you THOUGHT they had ties to me. I know I did some lame **** and I said some lame ****, but damn..