Wow! Thanks Liquid_Darkness! That helps alot! And yes i do understand what a ip add is. I'm not all the way dumb! LOL! Anyway. I've learned so much from this website in the last week than i did in the last 6 years. I love this website. Anyway. Question. So when you are talking to people on im as long as you have a direct connections with them you can get there ip add? what about e-mail? you said that you can find the person's ip number my looking in the MIMS extension? where is that? i can't find that anywhere?