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August 3rd, 2003, 08:06 PM
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Constitution (yet another US rant)
Heya all,
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Now with non-anonymous Antipoints I expect assignments to be valid. I know there will be assignments because they always are and how many people are hypocrit or not and maybe you don't care about not being anonymous, because you got so ****ing much antipoints you don't "fear" revenge. I can tell you I won't take revenge and you don't have to prove your power if you run out of words. However, because I'm just ignorant I ask again. Please don't neg people just because you don't like their opinion.
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Like recently in the news again, an Al Quaida man threaths the US again:
http://www.omroep.nl/nos/nieuws/inde...siers.html</a>
It's a dutch link and I'll try to explain what it says.
The first part is about some guy saying on some tv channel the US is goin to be attacked again. He says the real fight hasn't even begun yet. The second part is more interesting for my story. Washington is planning to bring about 600 prisoners for a miltary tribunal or a military court (if that's the correct translation). The prisonners are imprisonned at a US armybase and the people are from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Ausrtalia, Great-Britain. Six of them (of wich 2 of GB) will be judged very soon. Therefor they made a special tribunal wich may give them the death penalty. Washington says these people don't have the rights of prisoners of war from the conventions of Genève because they are enemy fighters.
Socond link:
http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/legal/septe...ember_11th.asp
Since September 11th, the freedoms that are at the core of our democratic society are, for many, no longer a guarantee. Hundreds of innocent Arab and Muslim individuals were rounded up and held for months with no idea why. Prisoners were shipped to Guantanamo Bay, where they have not been afforded the protections widely thought to be applicable under the Geneva Convention. New laws on domestic terrorism and relaxed restrictions on government surveillance of activists threaten long-established traditions of political expression. And perhaps most chilling, these detentions - like many actions by the Bush Administration - have been shrouded in a deep secrecy that is inimical to democratic accountabilty.
On all counts, CCR is fighting for the Bill of Rights. Out of 16 lawsuits related to civil liberties after September 11th, identified by the Legal Times in 2002, CCR is a party to nine. We will continue to work tirelessly in defense of individual liberties and the rule of law in the United States.
If yer interested also have a look at the links at the bottom
http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/legal/septe...vv&Content=239
http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/legal/septe...8m&Content=210
http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/legal/septe...0kV&Content=88
http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/legal/septe...es2&Content=89
http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/legal/septe...CpS&Content=90
http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/legal/septe...6Vx&Content=93
etc.
To not make this post to long there are many more examples of the US ignoring the constintutional right and the like. I know the US isn't alone on that (read disclaimer). That little bit of humanity so many people died for. The thing people cry for in warmovies. The dirty tricks you see in movies about the Vietnam war (from both sites) the mean people from whatever action movie.
The US is allowed to totally burn down two countries so far. One far potentionally hosting a Al Quaida leader. So far actually they didn't find him. Afghanistan lies in ruins. I didn't see prove Osama Bin Laden actually had to do with 11 september. They claimed it ? Then where's the prove Osama is in Afghanistan ? And why should we litterally *punish* the afghanistan people for his deeds. Bush didn't even try to hide he was killing as many people as had died in the Two Towers. The world did nothing I know, they were stunned by the agression from both sites. I'm taking about the US (disclaimer). Of course people will come with hidden and confident files that proves these things. Someone also said he had prove of Iraq having forbidden weapons and they knew it so sure. They knew the locations of training camps, where the missiles where hidden etc etc. Now... WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY THEN. Iraq lies in ruins. Nice side effect: Sadaam was an evil dictator.
These are just very few examples, but they do count I think. I know the common objections I always get when I say stuff like this, so please read my disclaimer:
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As you might have already noticed I'm going to bitch about the US government again. I'm actually posting it because I want to know other views because I *might* actually be wrong. Please don't come with arguments like "everyones doing it" and "why attack the US AGAIN". I don't only "attack" the US altough I do in this post. I also don't have anything against Americans personally. The reason why I "attack" again is because the issue never get's solved really. There's always some childish part in the chain that somehow ends the discussion in a way at least I am not fine with. I'm typing it here so I don't have to say this in every next post I make.
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I also know I always forget alot of stuff. I'll try to restore them in following posts if I remember them again. This post is just to long to be bugless.
Have fun and keep the discussion fair.
p.s.
A friend of mine told me this when I said I was going to "attack" the US "again":
<*> But understand we are the best in the world, and we can do whatever the **** we want
<*> Like yank leaders
<*> sell weapons and say "HEY, YOU ARE USING OUR WEAPONS"
so please don't send your FBI at me
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It's an American who said this btw.
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