Thank to all who have replyed, the help is very appreciated, to clear a few things up it's an old hp with winxp= home edition on it, 256 ram, the noise is coming from the cpu itself somewhere, the cpu is actually my moms and at her house where i posted this message from, I'm going back over there to try out all the suggestions, but when it shuts itself off, I know you need to wait like 20 or 30 seconds before cutting back on but on this the wait is like 15 or 20 minutes, i did delete the drivers before and reinstall, got the same thing, think I'll keep the printer disconnected with no drivers installed and see what happens, again thanks