well, spazzmatrix, i fully agree with you when you say "but the whole purpose of the site is to figure it out on your own. " however there is always a first time for guys like me....... i was clueless for try2hack.nl after 4 levels however with the hints i managed to enhance my "general knowledge" ......( however my G.K is failing me for level 9 is another thing )...... now same applies to hack.ae seems like where try2hack left off this site is starting from there..... please correct me if i'm wrong......